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A British school teacher has been arrested in Sudan accused of insulting Islam's Prophet, after she allowed her pupils to name a teddy bear Muhammad.


Ms Gibbons' punishment could be up to six months in jail, 40 lashes or a fine.

Sudan, BBC News 54 Comments [11/26/2007 8:32:51 PM]
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Say it with me: "act of war"

They do anything worse than speak to her sternly and it's the illegal imprisonment and assault of a British citizen.

11/26/2007 8:33:54 PM

How is naming a teddy bear, which is an object of affection, Muhammad, insulting? What doesn't offend these people?

I hope the U.K. steps in. This is ridiculous.

11/26/2007 8:38:15 PM

Jake Steel

but the teddy bear was eeeeeeeviiiiillll!!!!!!!11!!!one!

11/26/2007 8:40:31 PM


Okay, I get why some wouldn't like a teddy to be named after their prophet -he's supposed to be such a macho, no?- , but it's not like there aren't any Muhammads in real life!

11/26/2007 9:02:09 PM


I wonder if they'll call on the teddy to give evidence?

11/26/2007 9:04:17 PM


Oh come the fuck on! Muhammad is one of the most common names in the world.

11/26/2007 9:33:45 PM


In the land of fundies....

11/26/2007 9:39:19 PM


As usual there is one one term for this.


11/26/2007 9:41:07 PM


Isn't that... one of the commonest names in the Middle East? I mean, maybe its not in the Sudan, but it doesn't seem forbidden.

And the kids named it, so. We keep seeing these news reports of people being sentenced in lashes and I keep forgetting its the 15th century.

11/26/2007 10:05:08 PM


Muhammed is a dickwad. Allah sucks shit.

11/26/2007 10:20:12 PM

Caustic Gnostic

This is Sudan's official tit-for-tat re the international meddling in Darfur.

What really disturbs is the report of people stepping up ready to kill the teacher.

Barbarians, aye...and not too far removed from Barbary, after all. Religion didn't do them any fucking favors.

11/26/2007 11:05:40 PM


I declare Jihad on these fucking primatives! Now where's my stuffed gorilla "Jesus"!???!

11/26/2007 11:31:13 PM


@Caustic Gnostic: thank you for putting it better than I could, sir or ma'am.

11/26/2007 11:49:25 PM


Uh, so you can name your little shitforbrains offspring Mohammad, even though he might grow up to be a murdering pedophile and/or tax lawyer, but you can't use Teh Holy And Unspeakable Name for your teddy bear that will do no evil ever and make a few kids happy. Riiiiiight.

11/27/2007 12:00:30 AM


Personally I can't see what's offensive with "Mohammed the Pooh"... Did they make them all form a little naked pyramid or something?

11/27/2007 12:43:52 AM

Oh noes

Shows what Fundamental Fundism can do to any society.

11/27/2007 1:52:24 AM


Oh come the fuck on! Muhammad is one of the most common names in the world.

Perfectly true, but since when has any fundamentalist looking for an excuse to incite violence and hatred ever paid heed to an inconvenient contradictory reality up to that point?

11/27/2007 1:55:05 AM


Feel the love from the religion of peace! Feel all 40 gentle, loving strokes all over your back!

11/27/2007 3:15:34 AM


I have a lot of sympathy with the woman, but also, it must be acknowledged that she should have been particularly sensitive, living in a fundamentalist Muslim country. Indeed, no woman of the west should go to an Islamist-fundamentalist hell hole. [Clarification: Muslims tend to regard all western women as Sharmutaat - whores - and will deal with them on that basis, viz try to bed them and then bad-mouth them. The double standard is alive and well.]

My advice is for Britain to apply the strongest pressure, even to the extent of banning Islam in Britain if anything should happen to this woman.

Banning Islam? Someone has to make a stand at some point. Britain had to go to war with Germany in 1939 to stop possible the world being dominated by Hitler. Besides, fundamentalist Islam has declared Jihaad on the west, on non-Muslims, and happily kills Muslims that are not fundamentalist. And, incidentally, happily gets fundamentalist Muslims to kill themselves and others in planes, bomb attacks and other terrorist atrocities. Therefore we are not dealing with the rational and reasonable.

So, get the woman out of the Sudan; rap her knuckles, and those of whatever agency she is with, figuratively, for being there in the first instance and then for doing something silly; and then deal with the Islamist issues. The bottom line is that no country should host those who support any movement or organisation that is out to destroy it and its way of life. Islamism has to be brought to the realisation that the west is not a pussy-cat on which it can vent its hatred without fear of repercussions. This is so necessary if westerners are to live securely and travel in safety.

As to the argument that there are good Muslims. I accept that, of course. There are multitudes of them, just as there were good Germans too. But when one's country and way of life is under attack, it is not possible to make fine distinctions. You cripple the monster, kill it, and then you see what can be saved from the ashes. Otherwise you will eventually be brought down. Really the time for pussy-footing is over.

And it would be well to bear in mind that Christian fundamentalists, should they ever take control of any country, would be just as bad. Already they are bombing and killing abortion clinics... Where would they not stop?! Fundamentalist of whatever brand is evil.

11/27/2007 3:20:17 AM

Sir Michael L. Foley

Xotan, I agree completely.

11/27/2007 3:32:46 AM

Mr Smith

This is just wrong. If their god has such a problem with it why can't they just leave the punishment up to him?

This is just an excuse for some sadist muslims to get their rocks off.

11/27/2007 3:56:46 AM


Sounds like it's the KIDs who are at fault here. After all they wanted the teddy bear to be named Muhammad.
(But why do so many muslims have some variant of his name in theirs yet it's okay?)

So can I submit you to Racists say the darnest things?

11/27/2007 4:07:19 AM

Don't the Sudanese police have murderers and rapists to catch? At least, the murders and rapes which aren't sanctioned by the Almighty.

11/27/2007 4:13:50 AM

Fed Up


What was racist about his comment? It's a little extreme and short sighted, but hardly racist

11/27/2007 5:22:34 AM


people really should stay away from these benighted countries with laws based on tribalism and superstition.

If you want to see what a fundie-Xian state would look like look to the Middle East

11/27/2007 6:42:01 AM

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