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earth to Mark....science very rarely admits its wrong....about anything. Scientists don't like showing up their comrads.....it's a little game they play: "I won't step on your toes if you don't step on mine." And your little challenge, the way it is worded, is virtually impossible to beat because the way science generally dates rocks is by the fossils they find in them. Therefore, there is almost no way to prove circular reasoning because re-dating a fossil has nothing to do with the dating of the rock -- it's all about assumptions made on the date of the fossil. I'm sure fossils are redated all the time -- but it's not because the rock changed or that they misdated the rock because of the rock it was in ------ they just simply re-date the fossil whenever they want, plain and simple.

Supersport, CARM 36 Comments [11/27/2007 5:27:16 PM]
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szena

Scientists love being the one to find the proof that a widely accepted theory is wrong. There's nothing that will make you famous faster.

The "dating methods" you're describing are used by creationists.

11/27/2007 5:36:46 PM

GigaGuess

The average scientist finds accepted theory to be a challenge. If they can disprove it, it's their name in the textbooks. Why would any scientist NOT want to challenge it? The fussy part is, however, is that it MUST STAND UP TO RIGOROUS TESTING AND PROVIDE CONCRETE PROOF! The bible says so is not proof. I can write in a book that we fell from the heavens in pods. That doesn't make it so.

11/27/2007 5:48:02 PM

AnonymousAsshole

Stuporspurt is a fine example, nay, the poster boy for home schooling.

11/27/2007 5:55:42 PM

Cabal

It's called PEER REVIEW you fucking moron and yes scientists do call each other out!

11/27/2007 5:56:07 PM

BoBonDis

And WTF would scientist gain for lying about freaking fossils Supersport? It's not like we're talking about stock options or tax policy.

11/27/2007 5:59:13 PM

Andrew

nope

11/27/2007 6:00:38 PM

Mudflappus

Yeah, with peer review it's just one big scientific conspiricy aimed at proving creationalists wrong you say?

11/27/2007 6:08:27 PM

Osiris

If so then why do we have peer-reviewed journals?

11/27/2007 6:08:40 PM

Mister Spak

We have the radioisotopes. We win.

11/27/2007 6:17:41 PM

Old Viking

Amazingly, if science discovers it has errored it makes every effort to correct the error. Just like religion, eh, Supersport?

11/27/2007 6:20:53 PM



"Scientists don't like showing up their comrads....."

So the nuclear arms race never happened? Did we imagine the Cold War?

11/27/2007 6:25:24 PM

Vampirehummingbird

Yay! Lots of fruitcakes for everybody this Christmas!

11/27/2007 6:28:57 PM

anti-nonsense

Wrong. Try again.

11/27/2007 6:46:00 PM

LabRat

LOL scientists are a cutthroat bunch.

11/27/2007 6:47:05 PM

John

Scientists don't like showing up their comrads.

This is nonsense. Scientists are egotists. They always think they're smarter than their fellow scientists, especially scientists from another country. There's nothing they'd like better than to "show up" their comrades. In fact, that's what wins Nobel Prizes and the research grants that pay their salaries.

Over the centuries, scientists have redated the layer of rocks. But they haven't changed the order of the layers since they were established by creationists in the 18th century. The Jurassic always came after the Triassic, even when they didn't know exactly what years these two times represented. So you can come up with stupid arguments that the Jurassic was 5,000 years ago and the Triassic was 6,000 years ago by asking hypothetical ad-hoc questions about radiometric dating, but you can't claim that fossils in the Jurassic and Triassic were both laid down at the same time by Noah's Flood.

11/27/2007 6:57:47 PM

HeathenAngel

Lying for jebus.. still lying, but with flair.

11/27/2007 7:01:06 PM

Mike

Supersport... are your pants on fire?

11/27/2007 7:28:21 PM

Brian X

Scientists don't like showing up their comrades... for values of "scientists" equal to "pseudoscientific charlatans". You know, the same people trying to shout down the scientists so they can sell their snake oil without anyone knowing enough to make an educated decision.

11/27/2007 7:53:00 PM

t3h_fuhr3r

Nnnnnnnnnnnnoooooooooooo......
Paleontologists date fossils generally by the rock layer...

11/27/2007 7:54:41 PM

Athar

You sicko! Who'd wanna go out with a fossil?

11/27/2007 7:56:29 PM

Blackvoice

Scientists... buddies? Bwahahahahaha!

11/27/2007 8:02:05 PM

SSJPunk

Way to completely ignore radioisotopes.

11/27/2007 8:33:19 PM

Jon

Or you could study geology.

11/27/2007 8:50:09 PM

Detrs

I can tell that you both aren't a scientist and have never known any real scientists.

Maybe idiot "creation scientists" operate that way, but no one else. Of course, you're willing to give them a free pass since they're working to "prove" something you already believe, right?

11/27/2007 9:24:59 PM

Trilobiter

science very rarely admits its wrong....about anything
Wrong.

Scientists don't like showing up their comrads
Wrong.

the way science generally dates rocks is by the fossils they find in them.
Wrong.

re-dating a fossil has nothing to do with the dating of the rock
Wrong.

they just simply re-date the fossil whenever they want, plain and simple
Wrong.

It's nice to have you back, Supersport.

11/27/2007 9:29:50 PM
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