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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iV8sN...om/pharyngula/

I hope this movie is big. If so, it might just open up the eyes of some of the masses who've been completely and totally dumbed down by the scientific community. If there's one thing ToE can't stand, it's an informed, educated public....a public that knows the whole story -- both sides -- not just one. As this documentary reveals, there's a very good reason why darwinists are so hostile towards creationists and IDists.....but I won't spoil it here....it's in the clip.

supersport, CARM 29 Comments [11/27/2007 9:32:40 PM]
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#345994
dpareja

Sure there's a very good reason. It's probably not the one you think it is, though.

On another note, since CARM requires signing in to view anything (or so it seems) and the YouTube link is truncated, could somebody here please post a link to the video?

11/27/2007 9:35:10 PM
#345998
Blackvoice

If there's one thing ToE can't stand, it's an informed, educated public....a public that knows the whole story -- both sides -- not just one.

Wow, the irony, it melts.

11/27/2007 9:41:39 PM
#346003
Jim

We need sources.

Or at least some sort of fact-check.

11/27/2007 9:44:22 PM
#346017
Rhys

The mirror, it's so shiny. It blinds ussss!

11/27/2007 9:58:40 PM
#346021
Borborygmus

Oh dear, could it be that they all think that you're DAMN FOOLS?

11/27/2007 10:05:04 PM
#346024
Brainy

I was about to call poe, then I saw superspurt's name attached to it. Instead, I just died a little more inside.

11/27/2007 10:06:40 PM
#346035
AnonymousAsshole

Does anyone really believe that stuporspurt actually believes his own bullshit?
I mean, really...

11/27/2007 10:15:05 PM
#346041
David G

Video link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iV8sN1UngFY&eurl=http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/

11/27/2007 10:19:59 PM
#346043
Mike

Bu- oh wait, it's supersport.

11/27/2007 10:24:09 PM
#346044
WTF?

Everyone knows some type of creation myth - and in America the most common myth is the Genesis account.

But what the "public" doesn't know much about, including supporters - is the Theory of Evolution.

So creationist have the advantage, despite the claims of this post.

11/27/2007 10:24:24 PM
#346058
hypnotoad

Wow, i just lost all respect for Ben Stein- that dude gave my commencement speech, and now i'm actually hearing him say that evolution claims we're "piles of mud made by lightning?" How could such a cool, talented guy crib from scum like Kent Hovind?

11/27/2007 10:41:49 PM
#346074
Patches

God, this whole thing runs like there's this great scientific conspiracy to undermine creationists, and that the creationists are the "hip" and "rebellious" ones who know the real story that the scientific community is trying to silence.

Creationists are dismissed out of hand not because of some dogmatic adherence to Darwin, but because their claims have been demonstratably proven wrong thousands of times and have no tangible scientific knowledge to offer. All it is is whining that reality turned out to be different from their storybook, and they're too stubborn to face it.

11/27/2007 10:53:07 PM
#346078
Detrs

I'm going to say it now: this movie will fail. Not miserably, but think about. What sort of people will be watching this? Likely people that have already made their minds up on the matter (and not in support of scientific fact).

There might be a few "darwinists" that see it, but that will probably be due to their ID-addled friends begging them to go to "see both sides."

11/27/2007 11:00:02 PM
#346090
ArmandT

Detrs: Unfortunately a good chunk of America HAS made up its mind about the matter. See: Creation Museum.

That being said, I'm fucking fed up of these people. The fact that it is growing and not diminishing in the American public does make me wonder what the scientific community is doing wrong.

That being said, what I get from the clip is that there are some things that the ToE does not explain that it's not meant to explain (like souls) therefore Creationism is right. As we said before, ToE and Creationism are not mutually exclusive, and since both are wrong, then the FSM must be correct.

11/27/2007 11:25:08 PM
#346212
cyborgtroy

Actually, ToE can't understand how you can't grasp, nay tolerate such a simple, sensible / sensical idea.

11/28/2007 2:18:22 AM
#346225
Michael

As soon as I saw Ben Stein interviewed by Glenn Beck, I knew that meant trouble.

11/28/2007 2:38:57 AM
#346247
Jon

Am I the only one who thought the post said "towards creationists and Idiots?" And Christians are the "informed, educated" ones in our society? What kind of alternate world do you live in?

11/28/2007 4:26:49 AM
#346248
Cabal

If there's one thing ToE can't stand, it's an informed, educated public...

Which usually means "pack of fundie idiots", so yes.

11/28/2007 4:27:42 AM
#346270
KaylaKaze

Ben Stein needs a new game show: "Win Ben Stein's Fail" 'cause he's now so full of fail, he needs to find a way to get rid of some. First it was his reich-wing political views, now this.

11/28/2007 5:43:37 AM
#346284
Tempus

@hypnotoad: I'm sure it involves pictures of dead presidents at some level.

11/28/2007 6:01:16 AM
#346289
anevilmeme

Another day, another irony meter.......

"....the masses who've been completely and totally dumbed down by the scientific community. If there's one thing ToE can't stand, it's an informed educated public.......

Best unintentional humor this side of Ann Coulter, assuming she's actually serious and not doing stand up.

11/28/2007 6:04:18 AM
#346298
Mister Spak

"As this documentary reveals, there's a very good reason why darwinists are so hostile towards creationists and IDists"

I know I know!! It's because they are hostile to the science that makes the modern world so much better than the dark ages.

11/28/2007 6:10:56 AM
#346315
Paler_Face

We think creationists are a load of wankers because they present the rather stupid hypothesis that a hypothetical super-natural entity created the entire universe, yet said super-natural entity doens't have a creator of it's own, and who's existence doens't require an explaination, as a scientific fact rather than the complete fabrication it really is.
Such scientific dishonesty gets up our noses quite a lot.

11/28/2007 6:27:02 AM
#346386


That some false information appears in a movie with all the means doesn't make it right. Let alone that it "informs"

11/28/2007 8:08:30 AM
#346435
Terry

Watching this movie sounds like a bad fraternity initiation ritual.

"Okay, first one to vomit, cover their ears, or look away loses!"

11/28/2007 8:43:22 AM
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