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In a nutshell, my father, mother and brother all at about the same time (during Thanksgiving dinner) said that no matter what religion you are, there is ONE GOD and ALL RELIGIONS (if they do good in thier religion that is) have the same God and will go to Heaven. My dad can't get past the "what if someone from a little village never heard of Jesus........". My mother thinks the Bible has been translated so many times over and over that not everything is correct. And my brother said "yes a muslim will go to Heaven just like we will, as long as he does good". I TRY talking to them without arguing. I TRY explaining what I know, but it always ends up with "well anyway, lets not get into that right now........lets eat Turkey !" OR whatever...you get what Im sayin. THEN......I brought all this up to my husband and he started with "Well Im not too keen on the whole HELL thing, I mean why would a loving God send ANYONE to hell"? So, I just really DO NOT KNOW how to talk to any of them. I bought my dad the book The Case For Christ, but he never read it. I thought my mom was saved, but now I wonder. Same with my husband...now I don't know where he's at with Jesus. Ugh. Are there any websites? stories? emails? anything...? I can send them? I will tell you this too. It made me feel very alone. Very very alone. Like I am crazy...and who-am-I-to-think-this-is-the-only-way-to-Heaven. Help.









bergie38, Rapture Ready 62 Comments [11/28/2007 12:20:46 AM]
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Brainy

How about this novel approach:

Try accepting that other members of your family have different views, respect the choices they have made just like you want yours to be respected.


And whats with this? I never heard of fundie mind-waves skipping a generation.

11/28/2007 12:32:44 AM

Vincent

"I mean why would a loving God send ANYONE to hell"?
Anybody else curious what she answered?

11/28/2007 12:33:09 AM

ArmandT

So you're entire family and your husband aren't as bigoted as you, and enjoy the thought of billions of people being sent to hell for no other reason than not accepting Christ.

WAAAAAAAA-mbulance, anyone?

11/28/2007 12:35:02 AM

SSJPunk

The most important issue is the temperature of the food. It is approaching room temperature. The sooner you eat, the better.

You can find just about anything you want on the interbutts. Whether it's truth, or the fundie world you're looking for.

Yes, you're crazy.

11/28/2007 12:43:08 AM

Papabear

"lets eat Turkey"

They must be awfully hungry as Turkey is a country, not a bird.


"I bought my dad the book The Case For Christ, but he never read it."

My born-again sister gave me that book. I read it. It is the easy-reader version of the same old, lame apologist crap.


"Like I am crazy...and who-am-I-to-think-this-is-the-only-way-to-Heaven."

Go with those feelings. I think you're on to something.

11/28/2007 12:44:34 AM

approximate

I'm surprised they even invite you over. I'd kick your sanctimonious ass out the door.

11/28/2007 12:49:17 AM

werewolf

Let me repeat that. Who are you to think yours is the only way to heaven?

11/28/2007 12:53:50 AM

Brian X

Bergie:

You're kind of obsessive and your family really doesn't get the whole religion thing. Believe it or not, that's a normal state of affairs -- Christianity does not bear up under close examination, and frankly, if Jesus truly died for all sin, why is there any contingency at all? I mean, universalism isn't the only possible conclusion of what the Bible says, but it's certainly one of them.

Or is it that religious people simply can't get past the whole in-group/out-group thing and want to feel themselves special?

Naaaah, can't be. Besides, Jesus did a parable about the whole thing, with the vineyard and the day laborers and the equal pay for different work and the glayvin. Christians wouldn't be so stupid as to ignore the central message of such an important teaching, would they?

11/28/2007 12:55:01 AM

cyborgtroy

The mark of insanity is believing that everyone else is insane and irrational.

11/28/2007 1:27:32 AM

Prager

Three cheers for the family. Perhaps together they can rescue bergie38 from her cult.

11/28/2007 1:30:44 AM

Mike


11/28/2007 1:31:11 AM

apYrs

don't worry dear - all these people are EVIL and of teh DEBBIL and deserve to go to hell. Nevermind, you'll be able to sit on your throne and watch and laugh. I mean that's what the fundie code states isn't it?

11/28/2007 1:35:39 AM

AnonymousAsshole

Her rant reminds me of the early Dylan song, "Talkin' John Birch Society Blues".
It's almost spooky.

11/28/2007 1:53:04 AM

Michael

A good website: www.fstdt.com
And try LISTENING to them you batshit crazy bitch!

11/28/2007 2:00:12 AM

Xotan

What a sensible family you have.

Does the fact that you are in a minority of one not tell you something?

(Hint: they are thinking for themselves and using reason, insofar as it applies in religion, You are....well..a minority of one...)

11/28/2007 3:33:43 AM

Jon

I wonder why you think you're treated like you're crazy. Maybe because you're part of the lunatic fringe.

11/28/2007 4:15:30 AM

anevilmeme

So you ruined a great family holiday dinner because you couldn't shut the fuck up about Jeeezus for 15 minutes? Idiot.

11/28/2007 5:46:28 AM

Mister Spak

"It made me feel very alone. Very very alone. Like I am crazy...and who-am-I-to-think-this-is-the-only-way-to-Heaven. Help. "

Look up "psychologist" in the yellow pages. They can help.

11/28/2007 5:55:47 AM

Paler_Face

It made me feel very alone. Very very alone. Like I am crazy...and who-am-I-to-think-this-is-the-only-way-to-Heaven.

Well, bergie38, that is because you really are going a little nuts. Your belief that the god you believe in and the way you believe in him is the only right way to be saved is quite delusional.
Indeed, who are you to think that your way is the only way to heaven? Who are you to pass judgement on your fellow human beings? Who are you to say who is and isn't saved?
If you really trust in this Jesus you will let him sort things out the way he wants to. If he really is all-powerful, then he really doesn't need you to do his work for him. If he really is as perfect as you believe him to be, he can do a much better job then you could ever hope to achieve, you useless little whiner.
Now shut up and eat the turky.

11/28/2007 6:02:48 AM

MK

Dear bergie,

Who ARE you to think you know the only way to Heaven?

The only help you need is to get out of your fundyness.

11/28/2007 6:10:59 AM

Evil Deadite

Well BERGIE38... I would SUGGEST that you relax a bit and TRY and enjoy the company of YOUR FAMILY... Whether or not there is a hell and WHO GOES THERE is irrelevent to your THANKSGIVING DINNER...! Also, I am NOT SURE what type of education you had, but please SEND YOUR CHILDREN to public school and have them read SECULAR books so when they get around, as ADULTS, to writing letters, reports, business emails, ETC, they understand the rudiments of NORMAL PUNCUATION and CAPITALIZATION and can function in SOCIETY....!

11/28/2007 6:12:36 AM

szena

From one of the replies in that thread:

. If all religions are different paths to the same place, then why do the paths contradict each other? Does truth contradict itself?

There goes another irony meter.

11/28/2007 6:12:50 AM

David B.

"I will tell you this too. It made me feel very alone. Very very alone. Like I am crazy...and who-am-I-to-think-this-is-the-only-way-to-Heaven. Help."

What? Isn't Jesus filling your heart with joy at knowing that all your heretic friends and relations are going to burn in hellfire for ever-and-ever-and-ever?

You must be doing something wrong. Are you sure you are trying your hardest to be your husband's doormat helpmeet? Or perhaps you've eaten shellfish recently? I know, you had your head uncovered during your last 'unclean' time, that'll be it!

Try reminding your husband that he can do anything he wants with you because that's God's will. And no more trips to the Red Lobster 'kay? Perhaps if you hit yourself on the head with a rock a few times, you'll feel better. God's merciful like that sometimes!

11/28/2007 6:33:15 AM

LabRat

Hey, bergie, what happened to that whole Paul thing about women having to be taught in all things by their pa and hubbie?

11/28/2007 6:33:56 AM

Lupine

Your family is smart. Listen to them.

11/28/2007 6:47:59 AM
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