I believe more poeple have been killed in the name of atheism any other religion. Stalin murdered millions to create a godless Soviet Union, Mao murdered millions in communist China, in the name of atheism. If the athiests believe God is just a myth, why do they expend so energy trying to eliminate Him from society. I believe Santa and the Easter Bunny are myths, but I don't demand removal of all references to them. It seems to me you are not just athiests, you are anti-theists. There is a difference.
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Oh, I love this one. At least he didn't try to pin Hitler on us, too.
Guess what, dipserado: nobody's ever killed for atheism. Communists kill for COMMUNISM, and no, you DON'T look smart with your ancient "lol athysts r commie murderers" bullshit. Also, Crusades. Tu quoque, stulte.
1. Damn right there's a difference. Stop grouping us with them.
2. Learn some history and don't just throw around the names of dictators you know nothing about. Neither of those had anything to do with god, Stalin had been in power 10 years before the purges started, and Hitler was a Christian, but we don't group you with him.
I agree with you in one statement, Dipshitado.
I am devoutly anti-theist in as much as the theists in question attempt to use my tax dollars, my local, state and federal governments, the courts and the schools to further there own religious ends.
Those ends being; the indoctrination of young, impressionable children, the usurpation of government, to force those who disbelieve your dogma to follow its creeds and rules.
If you, as a theist, wish for the above outlined goals, then you are damned right I am anti-theist.
Otherwise, I don't give a hairy rat's ass what particular doomsday cult you show your allegiance to.
Clever wordplay there, Desperado. Did you think it all up by your lonesome?
In the words of the immortal Gollum, "Go away and never come back!"
"I believe more poeple have been killed in the name of atheism any other religion."
Everyone say it with me now:
Atheism is not a religion!
There is a difference between an atheist and an anti-theist. The more you theocrats push, the more I become an anti-theist. Back off and you can have your comfortable myth and not hear a peep from me, but if you start to dictate what I can and cant do or think, then I will bite back.
Organising atheists is like herding cats. The only thing we have in common is we don't believe in gods. Your witnessing and whining is worthless.
Once again - back off and get your dick out of that choir-boy.
One reason fundies use Mao and Stalin as examples is because both leaders did persecute churches and church members, and did kill or exile plenty of clergy. However, what they simply fail to grasp is that this was done to secure power, not to try to drive God out of a nation. Stalin couldn't have cared less about whether people believed in a magical sky fairy or not - the real threat was the church itself, as an organized body that stood (in his mind) as a potential enemy that would oppose his rule. And it's quite possible that the church might have done so, but Stalin effectively cut their power out from under them.
Hitler did pretty much the same thing, the main difference being that he sought allies within the church and used religion to justify his massacre of Jews in Germany, and destroyed or exiled any church or clergy that didn't buy into his program.
BTW - both Hitler and Stalin had moustaches. In your world, all people with moustaches are complicit in terrible acts against humanity. What is worse; Hitler, Mao, Stalin, Genghis Kahn and Mussolini all had black hair! Oh no! Never trust someone with black hair!
Also, atheist don't (usually) try to eradicate god from all of society, just from the laws everyone (including non-believers) has to follow. As an atheist, I see no reason why I should follow the teachings of your bible/quran/torah/<insert moldy old book> any more than I expect you to renounce your faith. All we ask is that you keep your beliefs to yourself and your fellow-believers.
If we want to find out what your beliefs are, we will go to your church and ask your religious leaders.
"I believe more poeple have been killed in the name of atheism any other religion. "
Being a dumb fundy, what you believe is full of shit.
The church publicly backing the losing side in the Russian revolution had nothing to do with it I suppose?
I guess God must have sided with the communists, hey?
Stalin murdered millions to create a godless Soviet Union
No, he murdered them because he was an overwhelmingly paranoid fuckhead who was afraid that he'd lose control if the people weren't continuously frightened into submission. Atheism had nothing to do with it.
Mao and Stalin - 2 atheists out of how many million?
Anyway, people (christians too) use doctrins for personal gain all the time, how do you think televangelists get so rich?
And makes no mention of how Christians attempted to iradicate any sign of other religous symbology in the Roman, Greek and
Egyptian worlds. No I guess Christianity would never attempt to subvert an established and accepted doctrines of faith would it?
Of course no true Christian would kill anyone so I guess there is no such thing as murder in the Christian world.
Two falsehoods right in the first sentence! Atheism isn't a kind of religion any more than cold is a kind of heat, or darkness is a kind of light. And while atheists have killed, nobody has ever killed in the name of atheism. Stalin killed because he was a paranoid tyrant. Mao Tse Tung killed because he was corrupt with power. And for every atheist who allegedly murdered because they were atheists, there are millions who didn't. By comparison, let's look at all the theists throughout history who DEFINITELY killed because of their religions. Torquemada, Bloody Mary, Osama Bin Laden, the list goes on.
"I believe more poeple have been killed in the name of atheism any other religion."
You believe incorrectly, my friend. Even if you shoehorn it as by an atheist, I still seriously doubt it.
"Stalin murdered millions to create a godless Soviet Union, Mao murdered millions in communist China, in the name of atheism."
Nnnnno. They killed to maintain their power. There's a difference.
"If the athiests believe God is just a myth, why do they expend so energy trying to eliminate Him from society."
Because we have a right to NOT have him shoved down our throats. You want to believe in him, be my guest. But there's no reason for any one religion to be ingrained in society in a country founded on FREEDOM OF RELIGION.
"I believe Santa and the Easter Bunny are myths, but I don't demand removal of all references to them."
First, I've seen those of your ilk who have, citing the both of them as Satanic. Second, you can also walk down the street and yell that they aren't real. Aside from traumatizing a great deal of children, you'll not have any adverse reactions. Do the same with Jesus or God in their place and see what happens.
"It seems to me you are not just athiests, you are anti-theists. There is a difference."
How cute...word smithing to deface an entire group.
They killed in the name of communism, which is a political ideology, not atheism.
And atheism isn't a religion.
The minute someone starts teaching my (as-yet-nonexistent) children that Santa is real, or that the Easter Bunny created the universe, or that the belief that the Tooth Fairy originated all life is a valid theory worthy of respect, I'll start demanding their eradication from society. Until then, thanks, but fuck off.
P.S. Communism is not the same thing as atheism. Megalomania is not the same thing as atheism. Paranoia is not the same thing as atheism. Again - fuck off.
Ok, all the atheists in this room, raise your hand if you are Mao or Stalin.
That's what I thought. Now, what was your argument?
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