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You raise a valid point. I love the story of Creation and have researched it, so I'll admit an 'eye witness account' couldn't be by anyone but God Himself, or Adam.

In the past there has been controversy about whether Moses actually wrote the book of Genesis, or plagiarized it from the accounts of Creation and the flood taken from early documents of Adam, Noah, Abraham, Enoch, Isaac, and Jacob. (did I leave anyone out?)

However now ancient writings have been found in the Middle East dating back as far as 3500 B.C. which would be when Adam was still alive. No one even knew that writing went back that far! I think that's so neat.

So anyway, since Adam was alive during that period of time, he very well could have written the accounts as he knew it of Creation, making it a 'first hand account', which proves that these documents were passed on from one generation to the next, and put together into one book called the BOOK OF GENESIS! Cool, huh?

SandraJ, Meridian Star Forums 38 Comments [11/28/2007 10:41:20 AM]
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Tiny Bulcher

These 'writings' ... say much about the universe only having been created yesterday, do they?

11/28/2007 10:42:59 AM

Mister Spak

"In the past there has been controversy about whether Moses actually wrote the book of Genesis, or plagiarized it from the accounts of Creation and the flood taken from early documents of Adam, Noah, Abraham, Enoch, Isaac, and Jacob. (did I leave anyone out?)"

Yes the actual writers of that myth, the Sumerians.

11/28/2007 10:52:41 AM

Mike

Your proof? Or just more conjecture?

11/28/2007 10:56:46 AM

Viva

That's not cool, it's just dumb.

11/28/2007 11:04:21 AM

Evil Deadite

"However now ancient writings have been found in the Middle East dating back as far as 3500 B.C."

Reference, please.

11/28/2007 11:04:50 AM

Tibore

fukin dumb logic there

11/28/2007 11:05:18 AM

Berny

Another fundie woefully ignorant of history crowing about the "eyewitness" accounts in Genesis.
Never mind that civilizations considerably older than the events in Genesis have existed, and they had documents dating back that far or farther as well.
Never mind that the myths in Genesis are not even original but copied from other civilizations around in the Middle East at the time.
You just keep on thinking that your book of myths is an "eyewitness" account, and I'll keep thinking of you as a moron.

11/28/2007 11:20:34 AM

Ex-Fundie

Exactly how does one squeeze multiple generations of people living nearly a millennium, then a flood, then several thousand years of recorded into a 6000 year period and not realize just how stupid that is? Even as a fundie, myself, I allotted no less than 10,000 years. Fortunately, I grew out of that.

11/28/2007 11:23:11 AM

David B.

"I love the story of Creation and have researched it"

Really?

"However now ancient writings have been found in the Middle East dating back as far as 3500 B.C. which would be when Adam was still alive. So anyway, since Adam was alive during that period of time, he very well could have written the accounts as he knew it of Creation, making it a 'first hand account', which proves that these documents were passed on from one generation to the next, and put together into one book called the BOOK OF GENESIS! Cool, huh?"

I presume you are referring to Harapa pottery discovered in the Indus valley:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/334517.stm

So, you think a 3500 pot with an ingredients list on the side proves Adam wrote Genesis?! You want some salmon with that leap?

11/28/2007 11:27:11 AM

szena

Writings have been discovered from ancient Sumeria that date from before Adam was alive, acording to Ussher's chronology. How do you suppose that happened?

And isn't it funny how none of the writings outside of the Bible mention Adam, Eve, Cain, Abel, or any of the patriarchs? You'd think the progenitors of the entire human race would be worth some mention, especially if they were still alive.

11/28/2007 11:45:15 AM

Dog's Best Friend

That's so cool I just got brain freeze.

11/28/2007 11:50:12 AM

anevilmeme

Okay, I'm bored I'll play.

Question 1: How did Adam's writings survive the great flood?

Question 2: How can anyone read Adam's writings? They were written before the Tower of Babel when God confused our language.

I can't wait for your bullshit rationalization answers.

11/28/2007 11:54:32 AM

Aethernaut

"Cool, huh?"

I suppose... if you lack any sort of formal education. Or if you're smoking crack.

11/28/2007 12:14:06 PM

cyborgtroy

Unlike resistors, a series of small coincidences does not add up to anything useful, meaningful, or correct.

"Since Adam was alive... He COULD have written"

Yeah, but why? How would he know people would give half a shit about his life? There were no other people.

"which PROVES"

I was alive when the Intel Core 2 Duo was invented, and processor design is pretty interesting to me, since I wanted at one point to be in Electrical Engineering. This proves that I must have invented the Intel Core 2 Duo processor. now fork over the moneys and the design docs.

11/28/2007 12:17:46 PM

onions

This is so ignorant it's cute.

11/28/2007 12:22:05 PM

Osiris

I think the Sumerians wrote that myth.

11/28/2007 1:24:44 PM

James

Lies. We have several differing written accounts of creation from well before 3500 BC.

11/28/2007 1:26:29 PM

Jon

So who wrote the epic of Gilgamesh?

11/28/2007 1:40:58 PM

Lunalelle

*facepalm* I just... I can't.

11/28/2007 1:46:49 PM

Old Viking

No one even knew that writing went back that far!

A few of us suspected.

11/28/2007 2:12:42 PM

Doctor Whom

Fundy Word Redefinition Project:

research, v.t. to speculate wildly about

11/28/2007 2:19:48 PM

Papabear

If your evidence is a "could have," it doesn't prove anything. And, just the possibility that a person was alive at a given period doesn't indicate that he wrote any particular document.

And, no, Sandra, it is not cool. It's lame.

11/28/2007 2:21:20 PM

Caustic Gnostic

Did Eve teach Adam to write now?

Eve's Diary suggests that this might be possible.

11/28/2007 2:28:53 PM

PoisonedRationality

Assuming these writings were even found: Just because the discovery shows it COULD have happened, that doesn't mean that it proves it beyond all doubt.

Of course, since they don't exist it's a moot point.

11/28/2007 2:48:45 PM

Andrew

Dear SandraJ,

nope.

11/28/2007 3:00:37 PM
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