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[Well, DNA contains coding and it's occurs naturally so I guess the proof [that codes do not occur naturally] has been toppled. That was pretty easy. Got any more?

Do we find DNA in Outer Space? Did we discover DNA on the Moon? Is DNA found in meteors? If not, it isn't a "natually occurring" phenomenon. It is quite unique to unique living things on this unique planet.

LittleNipper, Foru.ms 24 Comments [11/29/2007 4:09:54 AM]
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Look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ALH84001

Bacteria where found....organic beeings have a DNA...und you FAIL.

11/29/2007 4:50:54 AM


ALH84001 is very controversial. The possible traces of life might be Earthly contamination, or more likely: not life at all.

No, we haven't discovered DNA outside our planet yet. I'm not even sure if we should expect to. Some form of reproductive chemical is bound to exist on some other planet/comet/moon. In fact, many different forms. Some, or even many, of those will be similar to DNA but I don't think we'll ever find an exactly similar system.

Anyway, the fundie is making an argument from ignorance: We don't know whether life/DNA occurs elsewhere, so it doesn't.

We've hardly left our own planet yet, and only just the last decade or so we've begun to discover planets outside our own solar system.

11/29/2007 4:57:36 AM


We've found the bases. Will that do?

11/29/2007 5:03:13 AM


I we launch you into space LittleNipper then there will be DNA in a meteor, what with all the rocks in your head.

11/29/2007 5:34:04 AM


And I bet you think the Earth is the center of the universe too.

11/29/2007 6:32:33 AM

We forgot a little detail. Only organic material contains DNA. Organic, do you know?, animals, plants, etc..............

11/29/2007 7:13:16 AM


We have found amino acids in comets.
Experimental collisions indicate that these smash together into peptides when a comet crashes into earth.
Other experiments simulating the chemistry of deep space have produced simple spherical membranes,
and computer simulations indicate we should expect many other organic molecules, such as helices, in space.

There is no clear dividing line between organic and inorganic chemistry.

11/29/2007 9:17:28 AM


The mineral franklinite has been found only in a single small zinc mine in northern New Jersey, and nowhere else in the universe. Does that mean franklinite isn't a naturally occurring phenomenon?

11/29/2007 9:46:57 AM


I didn't knew rocks were alive.

11/29/2007 9:50:23 AM


You can't find rocks in space, only on planets and asteroids! Rocks are not a naturally occurring phenomenon!

Makes about as much sense.

11/29/2007 10:02:04 AM


Ah the beauty of goblin science.

11/29/2007 10:20:49 AM


False dichotomy?

11/29/2007 10:51:40 AM



11/29/2007 11:07:07 AM


The mineral franklinite has been found only in a single small zinc mine in northern New Jersey, and nowhere else in the universe. Does that mean franklinite isn't a naturally occurring phenomenon?

I think that speaks more to New Jersey's uniqueness in general.

11/29/2007 12:51:07 PM

The Watcher

Way to move the goalposts, LittleNipper.

11/29/2007 12:59:04 PM


Only on earth =/= non-natural phenomenon.


11/29/2007 1:07:21 PM

Mister Spak

Do we find any cow's milk in outer space? On the moon? (green cheese doesn't count) In meteors? If not, it's not a "natually occurring" phenomenon.

11/29/2007 1:28:41 PM

Old Viking

As Mel Brooks might say, "Reta-a-a-a-a-rds in Space."

11/29/2007 2:19:21 PM


Well we haven't found DNA in three places near us in outer space, therefore it can't exist on the BILLIONS of other objects out there! Right!!!!

11/29/2007 6:01:39 PM


You are stupid beyond belief.

DNA and RNA are only located in is or what was LIVING matter, not inanimate objects.

11/29/2007 6:43:09 PM

NJ Osprey

@Tempus who wrote: We've found the bases. Will that do?

Hello gentlemen. All your base are belong to us.

Sorry. Couldn't help myself.

11/29/2007 8:29:27 PM

The Joker

12/26/2007 8:11:35 PM


I'll take it from LittleNipper that he has intimate knowledge of the trillions of other planets - and therefore is qualified to make the judgement that this is a "unique" planet.

12/26/2007 8:20:34 PM


It's unique to find unique living things on this unique planet......

*looks out window*

Well, I'll be damned

2/15/2010 3:05:23 PM

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