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There is also exposure in school. My daughter goes to a Christian school (Church of Christ) and she saw The Lion King in pre-K 4 (I wouldn't let her see it because I thought it was too violent and didn't know about the showing until my daughter told me later), and in 1st grade saw the Wizard of Oz (that movie freaked me out at age 10).
Her friend from next door (same age and has an older brother...her father is a preacher) told her last Christmas that there is no Santa Claus and my daughter asked my mother if it were true. My daughter is asking if Santa is real at SIX!!!
Anyway, my point is, it is near impossible to filter out everything that you want to filter out. There is always someone that is exposing them whether they acknowledge it or not. Yet another reason why I am excited about Jesus coming. To save her from all of this worldly things.
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Well, heavens! We wouldn't want the little zombie to hear anything that might contradict the brainwashing she's getting at home, would we?
BTW: Does anyone know if there's an emoticon showing someone being slapped hard across the face?
Oh no! They're showing kids movies for kids nowadays! The horror!!!
I always wonder how these people feel forty years from now, when the imminent arrival of Jesus / happening of the Rapture for some reason still hasn't occurred.
Incestuous rape of Lot, god-endorsed genocide, slavery and pestilience at every corner, a big graphic story about someone being crucified and returning from the dead, immolation of children as a test of faith, a finale of untold agony and suffering in an apocalyptic bloodbath, with practically everyone being tormented in a lake of fire and burning sulphur?
How lovely
A scarecrow and a cowardly lion following a yellow road?
THE HORROR! THE HORROR!
Why are these people having children if they expect them not to live more than a few years (if that)? Why bring such innocence into a world they hate? Is that not one of the most selfish, ugly, abusive and hypocritical things anyone could do?
I've never understood what these people see as so fantastic about spending eternity singing at God's/Jesus' feet. What is with that? The golden roads and mansions and shit would amuse me for about 5 minutes max. And I'm no good at singing. So (please step in here sane ex-fundies), what the heck is the attraction?
At least you equate belief in God with belief in Santa Claus. More honest than you intended to be, maybe?
Andrew: Being the direct presence of God's glory was supposed to give us a bliss that we couldn't begin to imagine on earth. In other words, we weren't supposed to worry our pretty little heads about the details.
unfortunately she's not old enough to accept Jesus properly into her life: she doesn't understand the sacrifice he made for her so can't be properly saved.
If the rapture comes too soon bitch she burns with the rest of us. Enjoy your seat.
@Andrew:
I've always imagined that Heaven will be more like what is depicted in this one and the following:
http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0492.html
Your mileage may vary, of course. Must be a great place, though, given how few ever want to come back. Almost unheard of, in fact.
Hope that helps,
Grey Wolf
"Anyway, my point is, it is near impossible to filter out everything that you want to filter out."
Fundies, refuse to give their kids critical thinking filters because that would filter out their own beliefs,
so they try to filter out all of reality instead.
A clue: If your beliefs were real, you wouldn't need to shield them from reality.
Yes, older siblings like to be the one to break the 'bad news'.
Point is, when were you going to tell her that Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy are all make-believe? And why should she believe your stories of God and Jesus afterwards?
Joules wrote: Why are these people having children if they expect them not to live more than a few years (if that)? Why bring such innocence into a world they hate? Is that not one of the most selfish, ugly, abusive and hypocritical things anyone could do?
I've often wondered this myself.
"But Jesus turning unto them said, Daughters of Jerusalem, weep not for me, but weep for yourselves, and for your children. For, behold, the days are coming, in the which they shall say, Blessed are the barren, and the wombs that never bare, and the paps which never gave suck. Then shall they begin to say to the mountains, Fall on us; and to the hills, Cover us." (Luke 23:28-30)
They really do think that Jesus is coming any day now, don't they?
Newsflash: Fundies have been waiting for Jesus coming back for nearly two millennia now, and they're still waiting......
I for one believe that it's a good thing that she's challenging a belief in Santa Claus at the age of six. Questioning one's beliefs is a good thing.
To stifle a child's natural curiosity does a great disservice to the child and society at large.
This woman reminds me of my mother. She goes into conniptions whenever something happens that violates her idea of what's right, and she assumes that what she feels about something is probably what everyone else feels about it too. And she's freaking out because life is throwing her curveballs that she really should have anticipated.
It's all quite sad. People like this can't see past the ends of their noses, and don't realize it even when you explain it to them.
Wait, are you pissed because she might believe in Santa or that she might not? Because, let's face it, one lie is more important than the other.
Damn that reality, with its liberal bias. It makes it so hard for us bigoted closed-minded fundies to brain-wash our kids properly.
My parents made sure that we always knew that Santa Claus was fictional, which means I was very aware long before the age of SIX, that Santa Claus was just as unreal as the wicked witch in Hansel and Gretel.
Yup, Jesus is coming, any day now, maybe tomorrow, or maybe in another 2000 years. He said he would be back before his disciples had died, after all.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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