But if your husband has sexually molested the children, you should approach him with it. If he is truly repentant (not just exposed) and is willing to seek counseling, you may feel comfortable giving him an opportunity to prove himself, as long as you know the children are safe. If there is any thought that they are not safe, or if he is not repentant and willing to seek help, then go to the law and have him arrested. Stick by him, but testify against him in court. Have him do about 10 to 20 years, and by the time he gets out, you will have raised the kids, and you can be waiting for him with open arms of forgiveness and restitution. Will this glorify God? Forever. You ask, "What if he doesn’t repent even then?" Then you will be rewarded in heaven equal to the martyrs, and God will have something to rub in the Devil’s face. God hates divorce—always, forever, regardless, without exception.
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If a child molester were genuinely repentant, perhaps mentally disturbed and not in control of actions which even he felt ashamed of, he would deserve forgiveness and compassion. I sure as hell wouldn't let him back near kids, though.
"If a madman were to come into this room with a stick in his hand, no doubt we should pity the state of his mind; but our primary consideration would be to take care of ourselves. We should knock him down first, and pity him afterwards." - Dr Johnson
As for the rest of the post, we can and should dispense with your allegations of divine judgment and god-given laws and all that bullshit until you can give us some proof.
And when he gets out of prison, snaps, and kills the person that put him in the clink, testify against him, and was stupid enough to usher him back into her home...?
Does God really hate self-preservation THAT much?
Deuteronomy 24:1-2, bitch.
"When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give it in her hand, and send her out of his house. And when she is departed out of his house, she may go and be another man's wife."
Without exception, eh?
Fuck you, die in a fire.
And if the kids were two when he molested them and he gets 10 years? You think those kids are going to appreciate having dear ol' dad back in their life? Oh... no.... it's more important that God be happy with you for not divorcing.. You'd think that the fucker of a father would think of his fucking children first. God hates divorce but thinks that child molesting is less disgusting??? FUCK your god and FUCK you, too!
Wait, no, here's an even better idea. Go to the police immediately, without exception, get him arrested, testify against him, and get a divorce!
Why can't you be a troll. You're sick, sick, fucking sick. Can't you imagine what that would DO to the CHILD?
By the way - The mother herself could be in some deep shit if she doesn't remove the man from the household, could she not?
AnonymousAsshole, have a cite for those numbers?
(Not that I like pedos or think the screed you're replying to is just or anything, but let's be fair.)
If my wife caught me molesting one of my children she would probably put an ax through my head(and she'd be damned right to do it). Fundies are the world's grandest hypocrites, consenting gays are going to hell, but wife abusers and child molesters are to be forgiven and given a second chance.
You don't have kids, do you?
Granted, 20 years is a long time, but its pretty hard to forgive someone when they've molested my kids.
God hates divorcealways, forever, regardless, without exception.
And here I thought it was a sin to claim to know the mind of God.
If a father sexually molests his children, he would be lucky to have balls left. He should be kicked to the curb with the rest of the trash.
Forgiveness is admirable thing. I wish are justice system put more emphases on rehabilitation and less on punishment.
And if someone can forgive a family member after they do 20 years in prison for a serious crime, who knows, maybe that will make just the difference to help get their life back on track.
But to say you HAVE to, just because he's your husband, not because you can see any goodness in them is moronic. That's like "The King may be insane and demand human sacrifices, but he's the King, so we must obey him." Screw that, I'll be with the mob storming the castle.
Who would be dumb enough to get married in the first place under those rules?
Fundies base everything on the idea that everybody's going to get what's coming to them in the end, and that will fix everything that happened during life. Unfortunately, things don't work like that in the real world, there's no proof of heaven or hell, and even if there was, we can't be sure that eternal paradise/damnation are going to fix any of the deep emotional problems caused by child molestation.
I say don't take any chances. Live this life as if it were your last.
imo, providing for a child's safe and healthy growth takes precedence over Every Other God Damned Thing, including this twisted punkass of a god and his schizoid "laws".
Isn't healthy progeny the main goal of any species?
I KNEW IT!!! This guy is a fucking child molester!!! I could tell from the other recent quote. http://www.fstdt.com/fundies/comments.aspx?id=31719
Not only does he beat babies with spoons, he fiddles them too.
You have earned your place in hell.
sick. Sick. SICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@tracer
Hmm, I donno if you can pin that one squarely on the fundies. They're part of the problem, sure, but reading some of the comments here isn't a whole lot more encouraging.
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By the way I tried to google for child molester recidivism rates but couldn't come up with anything conclusive. I certainly didn't find any support of the claim that "virtually none" re-offend, but it doesn't appear that they have a higher recidivism rate than other criminals, as is often claimed, either.
Actually, even if she feels that for some reason her kids are safe and convinces him to go to counseling, we have to report ALL child abuse. It doesn't matter if they're sorry or not. So jail time either way. Its best for her kids.
Now wait a minute, isn't this the same guy (I initially typed "sane" guy there, but quickly realised that couldn't be right!) who also recommends fathers should take their sons into the shower with them and show them their manhood? I can't be absolutely sure but I think it is. Hmm...
If I had a husband and kids, and the kids were molested by him, the story would go like this: he disappeared one day in January. He went ice-fishing and was never seen again.
Or maybe it was a freak snomobile accident, who knows?
Tammy Wynette's new single, Stand by Your Child-molester, is making its way up the charts thanks mostly to the insanity of the folks over there at "No Greater Boy". Ooops, that was a bit of slip there. I meant to say "No Greater Joy".
You would take back a guy who had sex with your and his own children? ARE YOU FUCKING INSANE?
And it was Paul who hated divorce. Fucking hell, that bible shit will fuck you up worse than any hard drugs.
What's that, self-preservation instincts? What are you trying to tell me? ... Oh, I see.
"Go die in a fire, Mike."
What? Maternal instincts? What are you saying? Ah, I hear you now:
"GO DIE IN A FUCKING FIRE, ASSHOLE."
Okay, being a man, I know I have no way of becoming a good little "Help Meet" but suspending reality, if I found out my husband/partner/whatever was abusing my child, the man would die. Plain and simple. I do not care if it would land me in prison, I do not care what would happen after that, aside from the fact that s/he remains within my family. And if God had an issue with the fact that I chose to turn my back on my husband in favor of my child, then I would gladly burn for it too. A child is a treasure, to be prized above all else.
God hates divorcealways, forever, regardless, without exception
That displays either ignorance of the Bible or barefaced lying. Take your pick.
If God so hates divorce why are there instructions in Deuteronomy (Chapter 24) on how to do it?
Oh, and 'Stand by your Child Molester' award seconded.
i swear, if i was married and had kids and my husband ever tried to molest or rape my kids, i'd divorce his ass so fast he wouldn't know what hit him. i'd rip his balls out and send him to prison. i'd let god judge me in the afterlife, better that i go to hell for protecting my children then that i let them be molested.
that being said, if there were a genuinely repentant child molester who did something wrong and is truly sorry, i'd forgive him. but the fact remains that most child molesters are serial offenders. they do not change, for the most part.
No, what you do is put an axe through his head, place a knife in his hand, and tell the judge he molested the kids and attacked you when you found him.
if your husband has sexually molested the children, you should approach him with it.
Bullshit. You go to the cops immediately. If you have any concern for the children, you inform the law and have him arrested for rape.
as long as you know the children are safe.
You know the children are safe by having him arrested ASAP!
If there is any thought that they are not safe,
Who the fuck would risk their own children to a pedophile with a proven history of attacks?!
you can be waiting for him with open arms of forgiveness and restitution.
Fuck that! Divorce the fucker as soon as the cell bars slam home.
God hates divorcealways, forever, regardless, without exception.
But doesn't God also hate rape against his most precious of all people? Besides, Dueteronomy disagrees with you.
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