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These People really Love the Lord
"He that spares the rod (yes, I said ROD) hates his son but he that LOVES HIM IS CAREFUL TO CHASTEN HIM!"
Do you want to skip the "terrible twos"?
Of course you do, How about "Teenage-Rebellion"?
Well I Guess Right? NO! IF YOU DON'T YOU SHOULD HAVE YOUR KIDS TAKEN AWAY NOT IF YOU CHASTEN THEM (biblically speaking)
Now there is a series of books that can help you do just that! Praise GOD

I agree on two points that those who criticize me will say
1) Children need love NOT emotional scars
2) NEVER WHIP IN ANGER NEVER NEVER NEVER! (get the picture?)
But chastening them IS NOT WHIPING IT IS TRAINING
Jason
(14)
P.S. any one who buys into the secular culture in saying that proverbs is wrong as I quoted above, Should have their kids taken away and be put in jail

J. Bajis "Child Protector" , amazon.com 56 Comments [11/29/2007 10:00:51 PM]
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Osiris

Is this a child protector in the same way burning down a village saves it?

On another note my parents used to "train" me as a young kid. Even to this day I instinctively flinch anytime they make a sudden movement, even if it's not directed at me.

11/29/2007 10:02:59 PM

Count Spatula

Beating a child is still beating a child, and no matter what you call it, its still wrong.

11/29/2007 10:03:21 PM

Dave

You're into gay-incestuous-pedo-sadism, aren't you?

11/29/2007 10:03:25 PM

Horsefeathers

"He that spares the rod (yes, I said ROD) hates his son but he that LOVES HIM IS CAREFUL TO CHASTEN HIM!"

Yes, chasten, not beat the holy hell out of him.

"Do you want to skip the "terrible twos"? Of course you do, How about "Teenage-Rebellion"? Well I Guess Right?"

Sure, go ahead and skip two psychologically important developmental stages. See what kind of kid you end up with. Better get your rod back out, you're going to need it.

"NO! IF YOU DON'T YOU SHOULD HAVE YOUR KIDS TAKEN AWAY NOT IF YOU CHASTEN THEM (biblically speaking) Now there is a series of books that can help you do just that! Praise GOD"

So, rather than reading up on child psychology and development to be prepared for the "terrible two's" and the teenage rebellion phases you think it's better to beat the kid? And if the parent doesn't want to skip those phases their kid should be taken away from them? You're a strange one, aren't you?

"I agree on two points that those who criticize me will say
1) Children need love NOT emotional scars
2) NEVER WHIP IN ANGER NEVER NEVER NEVER! (get the picture?)"


Point 1: Agreed.

Point 2: Did you really just say "whip"? I believe you should be incarcerated. Quickly.

"But chastening them IS NOT WHIPING IT IS TRAINING"

I hope someone "chastises" you with a baseball bat.

"P.S. any one who buys into the secular culture in saying that proverbs is wrong as I quoted above, Should have their kids taken away and be put in jail"

Someone's likely to end up in jail but I doubt it'll be anyone but you.

11/29/2007 10:25:25 PM

ArmandT

Originally posted by Osiris

On another note my parents used to "train" me as a young kid. Even to this day I instinctively flinch anytime they make a sudden movement, even if it's not directed at me.


Yeah, me too. I'm still constantly laughed at for being so paranoid.

"But chastening them IS NOT WHIPING IT IS TRAINING"
To be what? Fundie sheep just like you?

11/29/2007 10:32:23 PM

Ansem the Wise

If you have to hit to dicipline, you have failed as a parent.

Also, it's pretty sick to refer to such things as 'training', you know that?

Osiris: I as well, and I know myself to be one of many.

11/29/2007 10:33:58 PM

Big Chicken Dinner

When I was a strapping young lad, my father would come home from church and the first thing he would do is make sure I did my chores correctly. Most of the time, I might have missed a patch while cutting the grass, or missed a speck of dirt while washing the car...

My father, being the loving christian that he was, would then find his axe handle. That was the closest thing to a biblical "rod" that we had lying around the house. He would then yank me by the hair and pull me outside. He'd throw me to the ground and start wailing on me with that axe handle. He'd usually get me about 75-100 times with that old ax handle.

Sure, he broke a few bones and the school was always concerned about all the bruises and that I always seemed injured, but those fruitcake liberals don't understand much about God's laws.

In the end, even though I have some permanent scarring and walk with a limp because of the beatings, I will always be grateful for the christian love that was in my house growing up. I can't imagine the pain of not growing up in a household that was obedient to God's laws.

11/29/2007 11:06:42 PM

CCMars

Is it just me, or have we been getting a lot of these kind of quotes lately? It's unnerving. <:\

EDIT: Granted most of them are from the same person, but still...

11/29/2007 11:25:12 PM

Not_You

Are you saying anyone who doesn't whip their children should be put in jail and have their kids taken away?

Backwards Day in Fundyland Award?

11/29/2007 11:26:59 PM

cyborgtroy

It's based on whipping, so it feels like whipping, but it's not! SWEET & CHASTEN!

On another note, it's fairly correct, but has freaking nothing to do with the Bible.

11/29/2007 11:36:20 PM

Lunalelle

I think you, Mr. Capslock, need some anger management.

11/29/2007 11:52:07 PM

Rhys

Child abuse for Jeebus!

"any one who buys into the secular culture in saying that proverbs is wrong as I quoted above, Should have their kids taken away and be put in jail"

Yep, throwing the kids in jail is really the best course of action.

Edit: Damn I'm glad Big Chicken Dinner is a troll, or poe or whatever they are.

11/29/2007 11:56:30 PM

√ėyvind

[Seethe, seethe] First the liberals take prayer in school, then Creationism, then our right to rape our wives silly, and now they're after the proverbs?!

Oh, he means the Bible section. Honestly didn't get that until I wrote the above:/.

But chastening them IS NOT WHIPING IT IS TRAINING

Training for what? Being beaten by abusive husbands?

These People really Love the Lord

If you can't turn something into a left-vs-right issue, turn it into a religious issue. Discussion over.

11/30/2007 12:26:11 AM

Jake Steel

uhg I'm not sure what makes me more sick the review or that "No Greater Joy, Volume Two" implies there are at least two books advocating child abuse out there.

11/30/2007 12:46:48 AM

Michael

Classic Fundie. Child abuse in Jesus' Name! Break out the stones, according to Deuteronomy, those bratty kids should be stoned for disobedience.

11/30/2007 12:48:18 AM

Morninglight

A swift kick up the backside or a clip on the ear is one thing, but taking a whip or rod to a kid is another.

Crawl back to the fundtardial ooze, dumbarse.

11/30/2007 12:55:25 AM

approximate

When your kids grow up, and maybe just before, they're gonna murder you in your sleep.

11/30/2007 1:08:20 AM

Prager

2) NEVER WHIP IN ANGER NEVER NEVER NEVER! (get the picture?)

Does this mean you whip them when you are happy? That's just sick and sadistic.

11/30/2007 1:21:52 AM

Tiny Bulcher

Jason (14)?

Bit young for handing out parenting advice.

11/30/2007 1:44:53 AM

b. beau

Yup, Big Chickenshit is a troll, all right.
He wins the Tiny Tim Memorial Crutch Award for lamest trolling evar...

11/30/2007 2:21:27 AM

Rubyfruit

I hate it when people talk about training a child the way one does a dog or a horse. That's really sickening. It shows what people who prescribe to the "Spare the rod, spoil the child" nonsense really think of children, theirs and otherwise.

11/30/2007 2:22:34 AM

Kristine

From Amazon's page:

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11/30/2007 4:12:50 AM

Frank

Urge to kill...rising

11/30/2007 4:27:14 AM

apYrs

Jason (14)
children should be seen and not heard. Who do you think you are telling your elders and betters what is and is not right? If I were to follow your prescription I'd beat you until you couldn't sit down.

But I'm actually opposed to child beating, or treating them as property or second class.

11/30/2007 4:38:04 AM

Redhunter

So you say you apply "the rod" to your children? I see...*dials 911*

11/30/2007 5:08:53 AM
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