Quote# 31778

"[To a woman complaining about her spouse refusing sex]

The ultimatum that you propose seems pretty gentle to me. If I were in your shoes, alternative (b) would be a divorce. (Or is that what you meant by "move a bed roll elsewhere"?)

As I said in another post, sex is the center of a marriage. In fact, it is the reason for marriage. It is the only thing you do with your spouse that you can't (mustn't) do with anyone else. A spouse who refuses to have any sex at all has strayed from his marriage vows just as much as one who is an adulterer. He is just as unfaithful, although "faithless" might be a better word.

If marriage is a picture of Christ and the Church, then an adulterous spouse is like a Christian who becomes a Muslim. That's bad. A sexless spouse is like one who becomes an atheist. That's just as bad. Either way, they have strayed from the faith/marriage."

GrantUsGrace, The Marriage Bed 34 Comments [12/1/2007 1:24:53 AM]
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Do me or god will send you send you to HELL!!!1111


12/1/2007 1:28:49 AM


12/1/2007 1:34:41 AM


Brings a whole new meaning to 'bride of Christ'.

12/1/2007 1:38:45 AM

cool cats

This just popped into my head, sorry if it doesn't make sense, but...


12/1/2007 1:40:34 AM


"If marriage is a picture of Christ and the Church..."

Now suppose marriage is a plate of waffles...how does that change your analysis?
Hey, it makes just as much sense as what you said.

12/1/2007 2:18:52 AM

D Laurier

If sex is the center of your marriage... What will you do when age reduces your sex drive????

12/1/2007 2:32:30 AM


That same justification was used by husbands who rape their wives.

12/1/2007 2:37:21 AM


Or, maybe he doesn't want to have sex with you because you've turned into a fat cow, with a smelly pussy?

12/1/2007 2:51:32 AM


I never understand why Christ wasn't married.
In a culture where arranged child marriages were the norm it must have seemed a bit odd.

12/1/2007 2:58:38 AM

Lt. Fred

I've heard worse excuses...
"Do me. Jesus is watching..."
I love it when you talk dirty..."

12/1/2007 3:27:29 AM

Jesus Klingon

After being told that we atheists would fuck anything because there's no God and no accountability, I think it's funny that GrantUsGrace would equate not having sex with atheism. We just can't win.

12/1/2007 5:34:39 AM


Isn't she being too uppity for a Christian woman? She's supposed to be too submissive to make demands.

12/1/2007 5:46:44 AM

Or it's just a person who has lost sex drive, for whatever reason, and needs help before taking radical measures. Besides, if marriage is only meant for sex, why do you oppose so much gay marriage, or equality in marriage?. After all, what's the difference between that and a monogamous couple living together?

12/1/2007 6:01:44 AM


Fundieism simply isn't a coherent set of ideas. Most of the time fundies bitch that sex is evil but in marriage its "okay" but its for reproductive purposes. Now this fundie babe is bitching she ain't getting any.

12/1/2007 6:37:27 AM

Raven Blackhawk

Sex isn't everything. That's why you need to get to know a person before you marry them. I'd rather marry a man who's my best friend and who wants to be with me because he loves me, not because some religion says you need to have lots of babies.

12/1/2007 7:20:47 AM

@ Dewey
except that his comparison comes from the bible and thus makes perfect sense in a religious discussion.

12/1/2007 7:50:37 AM

Jezebel's Evil Sister

Sex is the center of marriage? Silly me, I always thought love should be the center of marriage.

But, assuming "sex IS the center of marriage," and "marriage IS a picture of Christ and the Church," that's a rather disturbing picture.

12/1/2007 7:51:44 AM


I imagined Jesus masturbating in the altar. Damn. Now everything is clear! I'm gonna create a new christian sect, the one that should have been all this time! *crazed eyes* And Jesuschrist Superstar shall be our bible.

12/1/2007 8:33:40 AM

Caustic Gnostic

Pre-marriage: Don't fuck, or else!

Post-marriage: Fuck, or else!

12/1/2007 9:29:25 AM


Sounds like someone isn't getting any! ;)

12/1/2007 9:35:36 AM

Tomby Stone

"As I said in another post, sex is the center of a marriage. In fact, it is the reason for marriage."

This pretty much sums up how I see the Fundie obsession with sex. The whole thing is about protecting the act of sexual intercourse because having been drained of all genuine human compassion sex is the only truly valuable thing they see in others.

Not stating that as fact or anything, that's just how this kind of thing always strikes me.

12/1/2007 9:36:15 AM


You know, if you cut past all the fundie bullshit, there's a valid point in there. If a man is refusing to do is his wife, he's likely cheating on her.

12/1/2007 10:44:01 AM


Love, honour, and fuck?

12/1/2007 10:59:36 AM

Anna Ghislaine

Sex is the reason for marriage? Oh, silly me for thinking it was friendship and intellectual compatibility.

12/1/2007 11:24:35 AM


It is entirely possible that this person doesn't oppose gay marriage, because the cornerstone of any marriage is monogamous sex. However, given the xenophobic content of the final paragraph, I'm less willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.

12/1/2007 12:06:05 PM

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