BTW, when it comes to the "Merry Christmas" thing .... I don't even want non-believers saying it because they don't recognize Christ as the savior anyway. It sorta kinda comes close to taking the Lord's name in vain ... not quite though as I don't want to put too much importance on a word like "Christmas".
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Oh, because it's derived from Christ, right?
Then you shouldn't use the R-word, because it comes from those filthy pagan Romans.
(By the way, I just found out the word 'rapture', although not as etymologically related as you might think, did originally mean exactly the same thing as 'rape'. o_0)
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(By the way, I just found out the word 'rapture', although not etymologically related as you might think, did originally mean exactly the same thing as 'rape'. o_0) 1) In the 19th century, one of the favorite forms of erotic fiction that women enjoyed reading was "ravishment" stories. In these, a woman was raped by a man she secretly wanted to get raped by, and the more she resisted the more turned on she got.
2) Many of the posts made on Rapture Ready by women are of the thinly-disguised Jesus Sex Fantasy variety. "OMG, I can't stop thinking about Jesus, he's coming so soon, I can feel it, he makes me feel so awesome, Oh God oh God oh God!" ... that sort of thing.
3) It wouldn't surprise me if the Fundie level of sexual repression in these women led them to get turned on by Ravishment stories, as well.
So, maybe "Rature Ready" is merely an instruction to have your diaphragm in place for Jesus.
So you don't want us to wish you 'Merry Christmas', but saying 'Happy Holidays' is wrong because it doesn't acknowledge Christ?
Fundie doublethink at it's finest.
With that attitude, what he deserves is "bite me, you pecksniffing, holier-than-thou dickhead"; he should be happy to get "merry Christmas".
The Lord's name is Yeshua - Joshua to you in English form.
Christ is NOT the Lord's name. It's a title and it is a Greek translation of Mashiach, Messiah. All Jewish Kings were Mashiach, anointed ones. So were the priests.
Can we have a little accuracy and balance here please?
So Happy Saturnalia!
WHAT?!
One of the few things I have ever agreed with fundies on, the war on Christmas, and they turn it around. Instead of not wanting Christmas in schools because of 'religious' overtones, they WANT it to be all about Jesus to the point of not allowing unbelievers to say "Merry Christmas".
I don't know which is stupider, the original war on Christmas, or this.
Using the Julian calendar, 25 Dec coincided with the solstice.
Sol Invictus was the honoree of the feast on that day, representing the rebirth of "the unconquered Sun".
It followed Saturnalia but was not part of the Saturnalia festivities.
I have no Latin. How does one say, "Happy Rebirth of the Unconquered Sun"?
"No! It's my holiday, you hear me?! Mine, mine, all mine! You can't have it! I don't wanna share!! Waaaaaah!"
This is just pathetic. You don't want us to say "Merry Christmas" OR "Happy Holidays", or to share in your feelings of joy and happiness in any way? Would Jesus be so selfish? Okay, then, we'll just greet you like we greet you during the rest of the year: "Get the fuck out of my face."
EDIT: I was angry while writing this comment. After reading it again some hours later, I realize that it's totally out of line with it's language and mean-spiritedness. I'm normally not so vulgar, and I would never say anything like that to a person's face. The fact that I'm calling him out for not acting like Jesus would have wanted, while not doing so myself makes me a hypocrite. I'm very sorry to whomever it might have offended, and I admit that I should have taken the higher ground.
RI: <<Ok then. Happy Repurposed Pagan Winter Solstice Festival to you, too.>>
John: <<With that attitude, what he deserves is "bite me, you %&@#sniffing, holier-than-thou &@*!head"; he should be happy to get "merry Christmas".>>
Orca: <<Okay, then, we'll just greet you like we greet you during the rest of the year: "Get the %#!* out of my face.">>
Maybe you three can chip in on a new keyboard?
"Happy Rebirth of the Unconquered Sun"
Felix secundus ortus solis invicti, according to the resident Latin 2 student.
This is closer to "happy second birth of the not conquered sun"
I don't want to put too much importance on a word like "Christmas".
Of course not. It's too Catholic.
So...you say Merry Christmas, and it's an unbeliever defiling the name of the lord...you don't say Merry Christmas, and it's persecution.
WOULD THESE PEOPLE MAKE UP THEIR FRIGGIN' MINDS?!
throws the whole economy out of whack.
Eh. I'd say it actually keeps American retailers afloat. They'd all go belly-up if we didn't have Christmas. And that would really throw the economy for a loop.
Besides, presents are fun.
Since it's a Catholic holiday ("Christ's Mass"), maybe you should take it a step further and demand that all non-Catholics not say or celebrate it.
After all, you fundies believe that Catholics are evil, right?
So, why do you worry if a person whose status of saved or not you don't know telling you happy holidays?. After all, they're agreeing with your wishes, bearing in mind that they don't know your personal background and neither do you about them.
So, why do you complain?. The day you understand that "happy holidays" is just a market strategy and, consequently, they do it to match the expectation of people like you, you'll understand that it has nothing to do with religion. Who knows how to be kind and considerate with a person whose background you don't know?
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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