It's a fricken Christmas tree! It's basically defacing our Christian holiday. Using a Christmas tree for your own purpose besides as a Christian symbol is f*cked up beyond belief. If they want to be a part of our faith and holiday, that great! But, if they use our Christian symbol for other than as a symbol of Christmas, that is so wrong on a level I can't even describe right now.
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Ho hum, here we go again. From the Book of Jeremiah:
10:2 Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.
10:3 For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.
10:4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.
See, your own KJV tells you decorating trees is a pagan custom which should not be done by Christians.
It's a fricken Christmas tree!
Yes - ignoring the etymological implications.
It's basically defacing our Christian holiday.
Yes to a point. Perhaps more that Christianity defaces a midwinter festival.
Using a Christmas tree for your own purpose besides as a Christian symbol is f*cked up beyond belief.
H'Guh'nngh? Waaait what? Wanna read your bible for a bit there sonny?
If they want to be a part of our faith and holiday, that great!
Once upon a time the pagan's said that about Christianity - look how badly that turned out!
But, if they use our Christian symbol for other than as a symbol of Christmas, that is so wrong on a level I can't even describe right now."
Hmmmmm, are we allowed to nail supports at 90 degree to each other to build houses or do we need permission for that too?
that is so wrong on a level I can't even describe right now."
Probably a lot of things you can't describe right now - because you're so completely ignorant. That's OK, you have a whole life to learn and someday you can look back and laugh at your indoctrination. Then you won't be concerned about the violation of such authentic Christian symbols as decorated trees, mistletoe, yule logs, gingerbread men, satan-anagrams, etc.
Using a Christmas tree for your own purpose besides as a Christian symbol is f*cked up beyond belief.
You mean like planting one tree for each employee to landscape and re-forest land they cleared for construction like some companies do?
@Iluminatalie:
Care to enlighten us heathens* on the meaning of those "authentic Christian symbols"?..
* Even though I'm baptized!
(Later, after rereading more carefully...
PWNED! If I can't distinguish between Poes and real Fundies, it's high time I relinquish my daily FSTDT fix...)
Christmas trees, wreaths, holly, mistletoe, Yule logs, the date of Christmas, to name a few, are, shall we say... "adapted" from pagan traditions, just as virgin birth, announcement by celestial music and a star, persecution by hard-hearted authorities, murder and resurrection are all "adapted" from pre-Christian religions. Now beer volcanoes and stripper factories, that's original.
While dolega84 may have overreacted, the point of the tree escapes me beyond a gratuitous attempt to poke Christmas in the eye. I don't fast on Yom Kippur or Ramadan, but I'm damned if I would go out of my way to tease people who do. Sometimes atheists can be assholes, too
Why a tree? Because evergreen trees stayed green all winter long while other trees seemed to 'die'. They are a symbol of continual life and immortality - a natural 'miracle' to pagan believers in an ancient non-scientific world. Makes sense!
What do they have to do with Christianity? I'm still trying to figure that out - other than the Victorians thinking they looked pretty with all of their other greenery they put up for YULE parties.
I'm trying to figure out how they found evergreens in the desert...
Oh, wait, silly me. I forgot ... decorating trees is a PAGAN tradition.
How does an evergreen represent ANYTHING in the bible? I'll tell you: it doesn't, because the Christmas tree idea came along centuries later. As a result of the evolution of the holiday.
And along those lines, the holiday is now evolving to be a celebration of shopping more than a celebration of Jesus.
And before you have even one leg to stand on, please address how you justify using a pagan symbol such as the evergreen as a symbol of Christmas. That seems like blasphemy, and a ticket to hell.
I mean, you HAVE heard of Saturnalia, haven't you?
Haven't you?!
Well, he's right about one thing...oh, wait, never mind, he's not.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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