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Earlier this week, Rep. Steve King (R-IA) introduced legislation recognizing the “importance of Christmas and the Christian faith.” The resolution passed 372-9.

Wednesday on Fox News, King said he introduced the bill because he believes “we’re a Christian nation founded on Christian principles.” In an interview on Alan Colmes radio show yesterday, King went even further, saying that “every child” should “be taught” the “tenets of Christianity”:

COLMES: Should they be taught Christianity, should every child learn Christianity?

KING: I think they should learn it. If you’re going to learn American history, you cannot teach it without teaching Christianity.

COLMES: It’s one thing to teach the history of how religion may have been part of our growth as a country. It’s another thing to actually teach the tenets of a religion.

Rep. Steve King, Fox News 20 Comments [12/15/2007 2:04:07 PM]
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Coming soon, American Theocracy, the rack and iron maiden following shortly.

12/15/2007 2:12:29 PM


It actually would be good to teach kids Christianity.

The key difference between me & King Fundie here?

I say kids should learn about the other religions and atheism (though there's not much there...) as well. Most wars are fought over inability to contemplate and accept the differences in others, afterall.

And I hope you enjoyed that, 'cause I'm going right back to being an asshole now. ^_^

12/15/2007 2:26:41 PM


Republicans are passing all the batshit laws they can before they get thrown out.

12/15/2007 2:28:38 PM


To be fair, I believe it was also voted to recognize Hindu and Islamic beliefs.

12/15/2007 2:38:32 PM


Full text of the resolution http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=hr110-847

12/15/2007 2:59:19 PM


"he believes “we’re a Christian nation founded on Christian principles.”"
Finally, my turn!
And Mr. King, Colmes owned you.

12/15/2007 3:38:20 PM


Steve King is a Congressman? Unbelievable!

12/15/2007 3:54:26 PM


Fuck on! Our country cannot use its public school system to indoctrinate its students into a specific religion because that damn Bill of Rights. What Steve King is introducing is unconstitutional.

12/15/2007 4:49:47 PM


Didn't King take an oath to uphold the Constitution?

12/15/2007 5:46:15 PM

David B.

"KING: I think they should learn it. If you’re going to learn American history, you cannot teach it without teaching Christianity."

But apparently it's okay to skip the Treaty of Tripoli.

It'd be a bit difficult to teach American history without covering slavery, that doesn't mean you have to endorse it for fuck's sake!

12/15/2007 6:20:42 PM


I agree that we should be taught the history of Christianity. Christian nation or not (and we're most definitely not) it is a major contributor to past events. However, as Colmes has so eloquently put it, it's another thing entirely to teach the damn tenets. Besides which, if going through a theistic history class, you might as well go all the way, and learn about all of the religions.

That being said, Senator King: You are a disgrace to your office, and a failure of an American citizen. Please kindly read the constitution, study history and law, and never, ever, vote on any bit of legislature again until you have every word of the constitution memorized.

12/15/2007 6:49:18 PM


I have no problems with the tenets of Christianity being taught in schools. I think that it would be a great way to expose children to it.

Of course, it would need to be taught alongside the tenets of Islam, the tenets of the Jewish faith, the tenets of Wicca, the tenets of atheism, the tenets of Neo-Paganism, the tenets of Druidism, the tenets of each and every Christian demonination (yes, that _does_ include Catholics and Mormons), and the tenets of every other damn religion out there.

Every student should be exposed to these beliefs and how they have helped to shape the world in which we live.

Oh? That's _not_ what you meant?

I guess it would be a lot easier to drop the whole idea and keep religion out of the classrooms.

(Now, as an elective, if you can find a Professor to present material in a n unbiased manner, it might be worth it.)

12/15/2007 9:07:00 PM

The Watcher

I heard that whole segment of Alan's show. Alan totally schooled that King guy on both the substance of the Treaty of Tripoli and how treaties apply to American law.

Alan knows more about law and the Constitution than Rep. King.

12/15/2007 9:29:54 PM


OWNED! Colmes is still a tool of the right wing though.

12/15/2007 11:55:37 PM


I should point out that despite what he says here, Colmes is almost a Democtratic apologist, really. The milquetoast makes a good point, though.

12/16/2007 12:43:22 AM

Legislation for Christmas?, what's next?, legislation recognising the importance of brushing your teeth?

12/16/2007 11:16:47 PM

Todd Pence

He should go back to writing horror novels and stay out of politics.

12/17/2007 8:33:18 PM



Hell no. I read the damned thing. It contains blatant history revision, religious endorsement in the face of the 1st Amendment and Treaty of Tripoli, and is worded to show favouritism toward Christians.

I hope it gets rescinded as the unconstitutional crap it is.

12/17/2007 9:19:44 PM


Coming soon it's... "Aboloshing the 1st amendment", right here on CSPAN-2!

12/19/2007 12:11:39 AM

This is a true fundie horror story, I must say.

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