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Are Crystals alive?

Carbon and silicon sit together on the periodic table meaning that there are many similarities between them. For many years carbon was said to be the only living atom on the Earth, but recently all the aspects that allows carbon to be classed as such have been found in Silica also. This means that by scientific and human means silica containing substances are alive.

Life forms have been found in the deep oceans of earth that demonstrate all the characteristics of life, even being able to reproduce, with out any carbon in them. So, Yes, Crystals are very much alive but, as yet we don't completely understand their sacred language of geometric light.

Justin Moikeha K, The Liquid Crystals 51 Comments [12/15/2007 4:41:55 PM]
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Phönix

You fail biology.

12/15/2007 4:45:42 PM

Illuminatalie

"Crystals are very much alive but, as yet we don't completely understand their sacred language of geometric light"

I saw an episode where Spock mind melded with silicon based life. It was a totally excellent dramatic performance.

12/15/2007 4:49:16 PM

Moordryd

Stop smoking those crystals, dude!

12/15/2007 4:49:47 PM



I suppose that the ceramic eagle that I made my mother is actually alive then! Hopefully it won't fly away -- it took me forever to make. Mmm earthenware.

12/15/2007 4:57:05 PM

LabRat

Hey! Who turned on the X-files music?

12/15/2007 5:00:48 PM

Vampirehummingbird

Damn! I murdered a whole civilization of snowflakes today.

12/15/2007 5:01:49 PM

cool cats

No, you've been watching to many old horror/sci-fi films.



12/15/2007 5:03:07 PM

davros

CC that was a cool movie
bring on the salt water

12/15/2007 5:05:02 PM

cui bono

"carbon was said to be the only living atom on the Earth"

How much "wrong" can you fit in 1 sentence.

12/15/2007 5:05:27 PM

JD

If anything happens to the "queen atom" we could be looking at a serious case of Helvettica here...

12/15/2007 5:06:05 PM

Wet Walnuts

Atoms aren't living things, dumbass.

12/15/2007 5:11:12 PM

NecroVMX

Not fundie, just stupid.

12/15/2007 5:14:12 PM



They're inorganic material, did you miss physics class or you're plainly stupid?

12/15/2007 5:24:27 PM

BlackMageJ

Well duh. Haven't you played Command & Conquer? That Tiberium is some seriously weird stuff (and was actually inspired by the movie cool cats posted)

12/15/2007 5:44:24 PM

apYrs

not fundie just loopy.

It may be possible for silicon to form a basis for life (though thermodynamically difficult), but wtf is this bimboy whittering about: "sacred language of geometric light"


SHEEITTT!

12/15/2007 5:45:52 PM

Honker Muddlefoot

Goofy New Age-y crap. Not sure if it counts as "assertion of dumb-ass beliefs with a side of un-science" or "fundamentalist fruitballism".

12/15/2007 6:03:14 PM

Madame Scarlet

Uh... no, moron. Carbon is not alive. At all. No reputable scientists say that carbon is alive. It is, however, necessary for organic components (which themselves are not necessarily alive), which happen to be what make up life.

12/15/2007 6:31:39 PM

Brian X

To the extent that any of this is true, siloxane chemistry has enough in common with carbon chain chemistry that under certain conditions (generally very, very hot) silicon-based life could be sustained. Isaac Asimov wrote an article about it in the early 80s, and there's probably been a bit of theoretical work done on it since. To the extent that any of this is even remotely accurate, yes, silicon-based life might be possible.

But I'm pretty sure the rest of this is argumentum ex culo. (All known life on Earth is carbon-based, even the deep-sea extremophiles, which are about exotic as it gets on this planet.)

12/15/2007 6:43:38 PM

Osiris

Wiccian fundies fail at chemistry.

12/15/2007 7:02:30 PM

Illuminatalie

Good point, JD.

12/15/2007 7:48:04 PM

Morninglight

*bangs head*

Fuckwits like this give us pagans with an interest in crystals a bad name.

12/15/2007 7:56:09 PM

Pandadeist

Well actually, this is quite a debate. What is the definition of life? The ability to reproduce itself. Crystals reproduce themselves, so arguably, they could be life in a sense.

12/15/2007 7:58:00 PM

Ponder

"Sacred language of geometric light"

I don't know why, but that statement sends me into fits of giggles. It's just... so ridiculous.

Life on earth is Carbon-BASED. Meaning carbon is essential, but we aren't walking diamonds. On the same note, it is theoretically possible to have silica-BASED life, but no such things exist. Crystals are just highly ordered structures, not living entities.

And cool cats: You win, sir. You have won my heart and mind, and I will follow you to hell and back for your glorious posting of that image. Thank you.

12/15/2007 7:58:47 PM

Jake Steel

errr.... I suppose it is posable that there could be a silicon based life form (somewhere), but to make the generalization that all silicon is now alive and that all crystals are made from silicon is quite a leap. I'm not even going to get started on language.

12/15/2007 8:22:46 PM

flipper

Sounds like a bad info-mercial come-on!

12/15/2007 8:45:03 PM
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