Folks, there are no facts that C02 emissions are causing global warming. That is a {horrible} theory.
It's NOTHING but POLITICS.
Even the dude who made the weather channel doubts Cars are causing global warming.
We have to take account history {which IS FACT} where the earth has warmed { The heat days of Europe} and it simply could be natural patterns in the earth.
There are theories talking about how the earth poles could flip. That could impact the climate.
The plate tectonic theory also plays a impact on climate.
We have to take these facts into consideration.
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Yup, just an idiot on a Christian forum...
Not really fundy. There are some people who have doubts about global warming. I still haven't made up my mind about it, really, but I make an effort to "think green" as it were and I do support any effort to stop being dependant on gasoline, in particular.
Well then, if the dude who made the weather channel doubts it...
Stupid, yes. Fundie, not so much.
This is actually still a valid argument - scientists know that global warming is happening, just not necessarily what cause it. That's still a legitimate controversy, if heavy on the side of human influence.
There might be some controversy, just like there might be some controversy on some of the finer points of the theory of evolution, but I'd wager that Jayton isn't the one to be commenting on either of them.
Well, as we can see from some of the comments above, this isn't particularly fundy. I know a flaming atheist who still buys into the "we don't know yet" garbage, just like some of the people here.
Of course, this idiot goes further into outright denial. But that's just a lesser level of idiocy.
i disagree with the plate tectonics having an impact on climate, unless he means the fact that Antarctica drifted to it's present position over millions of years, and is now much colder. We do know that earth has been much warmer in the past, so naturally occurring cycles do occur. However, do we ignore the influence humans are having on climate change, and chalk it all up to Natural Causes. I think we need to do what we can to stop any change being worse than it naturally would be. That means getting off of the addiction to oil.
We should tap into UFO technology. They have the answers.
"There are theories talking about how the earth poles could flip. That could impact the climate.
The plate tectonic theory also plays a impact on climate.
We have to take these facts into consideration. "
Plate tectonics is only a theory. Pole flipping is a fundieoid fantasy.
"Pole flipping is a fundieoid fantasy"
Um, no it's not. There is geological evidence that the poles are reversing by the direction of the crystals in older rocks. The magnetic field is weakening and will likely do a reversal sometime in the near future (near future by geological standards could be hundreds of years). Look it up by googling "Magnetic pole reversal".
This post is not fundie, although I do think he's wrong about global warming.
That's still a legitimate controversy, if heavy on the side of human influence.
What an epic load of fail, Lunalelle. The 'controversy' around AGW is exactly the same kind of 'controversy' around ToE. i.e, only cranks and contrarians.
stogoe-"What an epic load of fail, Lunalelle. The 'controversy' around AGW is exactly the same kind of 'controversy' around ToE. i.e,"
No theory has absolute certainty, there is always some degree of doubt.
It' s like whether you smoke will give you cancer. Odds are heavily in favor of yes.
But you could be that one in a million that smokes til your 80 and remains cancer free.
So yes, there is a chance that humans are not causing climate change. It's just growing more and more remote as time goes by.
Ok....
There ARE facts that co2 causes pollution.. As well as everything else that comes out of cars.
But I guess the people of Los Angeles don't need oxygen to subsist, since there is no global warming...
Over the last one hundred years, that graph works. I tend to be on the side of human influence of global warming, for the record.
Extend that graph over the last 1000 years, and you'll see my point. There's a question whether our use of fuels are quickening the trend already naturally set in place. There's a question whether our use of fuels is all that is driving this trend. There's a question whether our use of fuels has anything to do with this trend or whether it's a coincidence that we happen to fill our atmosphere with greenhouse gases at the same time as a spike and a shift in global climate.
There are some people that say that the greenhouse gases we've been throwing into the atmosphere has interrupted the natural trend of a spike and shift in temperature. To tell the truth, if you look at climate trends over longer than one hundred years, we are overdue for a cold shift.
It's kind of stupid to look at one hundred year graphs when part of the controversy is that it's a natural trend (see ice cores). Then you have to look at longer trends. In my opinion, even these trends suggest that our greenhouse gases are what's causing global warming. I'd look for the damn graph, but I'm lazy at the moment.
You are not one to comment on theories being valid.
Tectonic plates impact the temperature of the atomosphere?
And the poles flipping doesn't effect anything...until they actually DO flip. Ever notice that your ABC magnets are still on your fridge?
Rated as "Meh". While this is most definetely a stupid person, posting on a Christian forum, I can't really count this as fundamentalism - just ignorance of a totally different kind.
Not that it's not bad, but you know, this doesn't belong here.
The globe is definetly warming. The case of man-made global warming is still up in the air.
But anyone owning an SUV, flies a plane more than once a year or eats more than twice their weekly need of meat is not entitled to an opinion, IMHO.
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