Man labeled the animals, put them in classes, families, species, etc. Of course the apes look a little more similar to humans than other animals, but they are still animals. They are not humans. They are trainable like other animals, but that is all. Trying to compare animals and humans together is absurd, and so is the idea of saying we came from animals. Once again, those who do this truly have no love for God, they would rather worship the creation, rather than the creator. And then their are others who have just tried to fit in with the world and bought the worldy view of origins. The only common ancestry we have with apes, is we all come from the dust per the Bible.
I think the verses speaking of God frustrating the intelligence of the wise, is very appropriate here. Most of the people trying to push the evolutionary views are atheists who do not want to believe in God, and they will find anything and everything to justify to themselves that he does not exist. And evolution and the ape to man theory (hypothesis) is just the latest (since 1800's) idea they have been satisified with. Still doesn't change one iota that God will judge them for their wickedness when they take their last breath.
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Hmm, a fundie who can at least join words together. It is a shame Chris is unable to follow anything resembling a line of logic even less have a basic grasp of science.
All in all, good effort but still a fail.
"God frustrating the intelligence of the wise"
It wasn't god, it was the hobbits. See Chapter 1: Concerning Hobbits in the First Book written by the Prophet Tolkien.
I apologize profusely. The actual quote is "...and troubled the counsels of the Wise and the Great." And it's not in the 1st Chapter, it's in the Prologue.
I deserve to burn in the fires of Mount Doom. I have failed miserably. Don't look at me. I will just slink away in shame and hide myself in the dark caverns beneath the Misty Mountains.
Ecclesiastes 3:
18 I said in mine heart concerning the estate of the sons of men, that God might manifest them, and that they might see that they themselves are beasts.
19 For that which befalleth the sons of men befalleth beasts; even one thing befalleth them: as the one dieth, so dieth the other; yea, they have all one breath; so that a man hath no preeminence above a beast: for all is vanity.
20 All go unto one place; all are of the dust, and all turn to dust again.
The Guy who invented the classification system, Carolus Linneaus I believe, was a creationist. He classed apes with man as "primates" because of the obvious similarities: 4 fingers and thumb, eyes at the front of the head, same number of teeth, same wrist and shoulder structure, etc. Linneaus thought that God started with the most primitive animals and worked his way up, and that the apes were the last animals made before man.
I think the verses speaking of God frustrating the intelligence of the wise, is very appropriate here.
Quite. The bible is infamous for its self-contained confusion, conundrums, contradictions and confoundment. This is too consistent to have been accidental. They designed it that way, methinks.
The wise simply eschew the bible. Those of the wise who acknowledge a personal need to symbolize their philosophy, find many psycho-spiritual patterns and precedents, better ones, elsewhere.
"Once again, those who do this truly have no love for God"
"Still doesn't change one iota that God will judge them for their wickedness when they take their last breath"
Mike wrote: "If we're not animals, then we're plants?
Nah, men are minerals because Adam was created from the "dust of the earth." But, since Eve was created from one of his ribs, I guess that means that women are meat byproducts.
"Humans are not proud of their ancestors, and rarely invite them round to dinner."
Or, even better: "I don't believe it. Prove it to me and I still won't believe it."
We miss you, DNA.
Apes labeled the animals, put them in classes, families, species, etc. Of course the humans look a little more similar to apes than other animals, but they are still animals. They are not apes. They are trainable like other animals, but that is all. Trying to compare animals and apes together is absurd, and so is the idea of saying we came from animals. Once again, those who do this truly have no love for God, they would rather worship the creation, rather than the creator. And then their are others who have just tried to fit in with the world and bought the worldy view of origins. The only common ancestry we have with apes, is we all come from the dust per the Bible.
I think the verses speaking of God frustrating the intelligence of the wise, is very appropriate here. Most of the apes trying to push the evolutionary views are atheists who do not want to believe in God, and they will find anything and everything to justify to themselves that he does not exist. And evolution and the man to ape theory (hypothesis) is just the latest (since 1800's) idea they have been satisified with. Still doesn't change one iota that God will judge them for their wickedness when they take their last breath.
"Trying to compare animals and humans together is absurd..." Well kinda. Trying to compare humans to animals is like saying, "Let's compare this oak tree to plants!" Oh you think humans aren't animals?
"Most of the people trying to push the evolutionary views are atheists who do not want to believe in God..." Wrong. Most Catholics believe in evolution (which makes going to a religious school bearable, even my theology teacher fully supports evolutionary theory).
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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