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There is a lot of fraud (think Piltdown man) and a lot of misunderstandings (Neanderthals were suffering from lack of vitamin D). Before the flood the air was heavier, and richer. With the changes of the flood, dinosaurs could not live. (except for the deep water types, like Loch Ness Monster). Therefore they were killed in the flood. They might have been part of the Almighty's original creation, or they might have been the results of genetic experiments. No, Atheists did not put them there.

hasse_john, Yahoo! Answers 29 Comments [12/28/2007 4:50:50 AM]
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Osiris

You know what: fuck the Piltdown man okay seriously. Yes the people who brought up the Piltdown mad did it as a hoax but it was disproven by scientists, not creationists. We have dozens of different species that show human evolution and all of them are genuine. As for Neanderthals....well...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKsMsz6dBac

12/28/2007 4:54:20 AM

Jack Bauer

"Before the flood the air was heavier, and richer."

Analytical figures, please.

Terms like 'heavier' and 'richer' mean nothing:

'heavier' - the atmosphere (these days) is around 20% oxygen (atomic weight 16, so molecular weight is 32) and 70% nitrogen (Aw 14, MW 28). The other 10% comprises of carbon dioxide, noble gases, alkanes etc. - So does this mean that those atoms/molecules weighed more? Was the molecular weight of nitrogen, say, 32 back before Teh Fludde? Because if it was, it would be oxygen....

'richer' - dollar bills blowing in the wind.

"deep water types like the Loch Ness Monster" Just how fucking stupid are you? Loch Ness might be quite deep as far as lakes go, but it's just as shallow scratch in the soil compared to ocean depths.

If you bothered to actually check out anything before posting your blather you might learn something.

12/28/2007 5:27:51 AM

Euclid

Wot Osiris sed.

Seriously, Piltdown Man is, if anything, proof of why science *works*, not fails. See, a whole bunch of people who knew what the fuck they were talking about went "hmm, this Piltdown thingy doesn't seem to be quite right..." and eventually worked out that there was a good reason for that.

That's. How. Science. Works. You. Mor. On.

12/28/2007 5:40:21 AM

Greebo

Since when is there an actual Loch Ness monster? Always thought that one was a hoax as well.....

12/28/2007 5:52:52 AM

Lewisfisher

Plesiosaurs are NOT dinosaurs. They just happened to live in the same time period as dinosaurs.

Also, who the hell would've had the technology to do genetic experiments back in the ancient times? wtf?

12/28/2007 6:11:52 AM

Zarathustra

See no science.
Hear no science.
Speak creationism.

12/28/2007 6:37:47 AM

√ėyvind

Genetic experiments that early? Why have we found no fossilized computers, vials, biology textbooks, etc. from that time?

12/28/2007 6:43:50 AM

BreeStar

Can anyone translate what this idiot is saying? I don't speak stupid.

12/28/2007 7:02:10 AM

Ranger Joe

Damn you Loch Ness Monsta! I will not give you tree fiddy!!!

12/28/2007 2:21:15 PM

BlackMageJ

I thought the atmosphere was made of ice before the flood? Not just heavier and richer.

Damn, at least we evil atheists can generally agree on our 'crazy lies' like how evolution works.

12/28/2007 2:45:42 PM

Mister Spak

On the other hand, in creationism there is a lot of making shit up, for example your post.

12/28/2007 2:50:22 PM

caitshidhe

frauds and hoaxes like the Piltdown Man and Nebraska Man were disproven--by scientists, mind you--and discarded from evolutionary biology. they're not used anymore as a part of evolutionary science.

no matter where you look, people will put forward hoaxes to see if they can get away with it, or to earn some money. religious relics are rife with frauds--out of all of the presumed "holy grails" in the world, how many do you think are real? and there are enough "fragments of the true cross" floating around to create about ten wooden crosses.

but the difference between science and religion is that when the scientific world is mistaken, they stand up and announce, "look, we made a mistake. based on the available data, we came to a conclusion and it as the wrong one. this is what we now think....." religious nutwads such as yourself absolutely REFUSE to believe that they are ever wrong about anything. you cover your ears and go, "LA LA LA, I CAN'T HEEEAR YOUUUU!"

12/28/2007 2:54:45 PM

John

Piltdown Man was not necessarily a fraud. Many believe it was a joke that got taken so seriously that the jokesters were afraid it would ruin their careers if they owned up. The other creationist chestnut, Nebraska Man, was never taken very seriously by most scientists. Most of the hoopla, along with a fanciful drawing of a "cave-man" like creature, was the result of a careless and premature publication by popular magazine. No one ever claimed "Nebraska Man" was a human.

Modern humans with vitamin D deficiencies don't become Neanderthals. If they did, we'd still have them walking about today.

Before the flood the air was heavier, and richer.

And it says this in the Bible exactly where?

With the changes of the flood, dinosaurs could not live.

But what happened to the glyptodont and merychipus and basilosaurus? Why would the changes kill them, but not their relatives, the sloth, horse and whale?

12/28/2007 3:26:57 PM



Piltdown was discovered to be a fraud not long after its discovery by scientists themselves. It's an old tale. And Neardenthals died because of the law of life, no evidence whatsoever of your bogus theory. And get over it, DINOSAURS WERE EXTINCT MILLION YEARS AGO.

12/28/2007 5:28:48 PM

Anti-Goth

hasse_john is like the redtarded love child of Erich von Daniken and Kent Hovind.

12/28/2007 5:51:05 PM

Whydontyou.org.uk

Loch Ness monster! Priceless.

Fundie idiocy at its best...

12/28/2007 8:08:27 PM

Mayhem

Doesn't believe in evolution, but believes in the Loch Ness Monster.

(facepalm)

12/28/2007 9:05:26 PM

Old Viking

Any hope for a serious conversation ends when "the flood" is introduced.

12/28/2007 9:32:55 PM

RI

Genetic experiments that early? Why have we found no fossilized computers, vials, biology textbooks, etc. from that time? -- Øyvind

It was the Atlanteans, man. Don't they learn you kids nuthin' in school no more?

12/28/2007 10:25:46 PM

Katsuro

"except for the deep water types"

There were no deep water dinosaurs. Dinosaurs were land dweling creatures.

12/28/2007 10:29:34 PM

Illuminatalie

You're talking about people being gullible to frauds, then you talk about Nessie? I suppose, after that kind of thing, it's not surprising you think there were genetic experiments in Noah's time. The Nephelim musta bred those dinosaurs.

12/29/2007 4:36:19 AM

szena

Why don't modern people suffering from Vitamin D deficiencies look like Neanderthals?

12/29/2007 12:48:47 PM

Caustic Gnostic

I've read recently that g0d caused the flood because:

Many of his myriad angels took a liking to human women, and bred monsters on them. g0d banished them, and flooded "the world" to kill off the monsters.

12/29/2007 1:34:43 PM

Miffystopheles

Noah didn't save the dinosaurs? Well, I can't say I blame him, but that kind of contradicts God's orders.

12/29/2007 3:50:53 PM

Chi

@ Osiris. Thank you, hun. The Piltdown man was created to prove what evolutionist at the time thought a link in human evolution should look like.

@Caustic Gnostic

Studying our Catholisism, are we? It's a fun read. The sons of God (angels) lusted after the daughters of men (humans) and bred a race of nephlim (giants). Any time you see giant in the Bible they were originally talking about nephlim.

Oooh, and look up obscure catholic saints. There are at least two werewolves

Let's talk about Nessie. Okay, I'm an ameture Cryptozoologist. Guilty. I've participated in Sasquatch studies in the Hocking hills (central Ohio). One of our campfire games is to ask each other which famous "monsters" we think are possibilities and which are outright legend. Nessie is legend 98% of the time. Champ from lake Champlain here in the states gets about 50% since there is sonar in the lake that can't be linked to animals that frequent that lake. And yeah, it's silly to most people. But it is fun and it does feed the human need for wonder and the unknown without going religious crazy.

12/31/2007 7:20:46 AM
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