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MCKINNEY TX - The pastor of a charismatic Christian church attended by the Plano mother on trial, accused of fatally cutting off the arms of her 10-month-old daughter, told jurors Wednesday that mental illness is really demon possession that cannot be cured with psychiatry or medicine.

"I do not believe that any mental illness exists other than demons, and no medication can straighten it out, other than the power of God," said Doyle Davidson, the 73-year-old minister of the Water of Life Church that Dena and John Schlosser attended several times a week.


Schlosser was arrested after police, responding to a 911 call, found her in the living room of her apartment, blood smeared on her face and clothes, a Christian hymn playing and a Bible open near the crib where the child was killed.

Defense lawyers have faulted her husband and Davidson for downplaying her strange behavior and cutting short treatment of a psychotic condition that began after the birth of her third child in January 2004.

John Schlosser testified Tuesday that he did not seek medical help when his wife told him she wanted to "give the baby to God" about a week before their daughter's death.

Doyle Davidson, ExChristian.net 78 Comments [1/1/2008 7:28:21 AM]
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D Laurier

Scary and sad

1/1/2008 8:16:39 AM

Øyvind

And when your breathing stops, it's God's will that you should die, so CPR is Sin. Prayer works better, despite what evil atheist scientist says.

PS: Hehe, try submitting without putting anything in the Comment field:P.

1/1/2008 8:36:32 AM

1Burning Stake

This is just so, so sad I won't even try to say something snarky here. All of the people involved need help.

1/1/2008 8:41:55 AM

werewolf

I feel pity and revulsion in equal measure for this woman. I have nothing but contempt for her husband and that idiot minister.

How can these three justify their behavior against an innocent child and still call themselves human?

How incredibly stupid do you have to be to become a Doyle Davidson? He led two idiots astray with his opinions and rantings. How is it possible that he can live with himself?

He should be disbarred or defrocked or court-martialed or whatever is done to ministers who fail to show that they have more brains than a brick. I recommend being tarred, feathered, and expunged from the human race as punishment.

1/1/2008 8:47:23 AM

solomongrundy

Whoo.
This is so far beyond the usual (deluded but fairly harmless) nut-jobs we quote here that I can't think of a appropriate comment.


1/1/2008 8:54:23 AM

Dax

Oh Shit
Gotta praise the lord on this one.

1/1/2008 8:56:21 AM

Osiris

Shit and the year just began too.

1/1/2008 9:21:01 AM

Øyvind

Defense lawyers have faulted her husband and Davidson for downplaying her strange behavior and cutting short treatment of a psychotic condition that began after the birth of her third child in January 2004.

John Schlosser testified Tuesday that he did not seek medical help when his wife told him she wanted to "give the baby to God" about a week before their daughter's death.


Disgusting.

1/1/2008 10:41:40 AM

Alwimo

@ Øyvind: "Hehe, try submitting without putting anything in the Comment field:P".
Old Testament Yahweh? :)

1/1/2008 10:44:13 AM



The problem with those guys is that, even if their "deliverance" session didn't cure this poor woman, they would carry on on believing that. Unfortunately, they can't help what others believe(and this tragic thing doesn't help)

1/1/2008 11:33:59 AM



Doyle is a true vulture for God, exploiting death and tragedy to promote his superstition.

1/1/2008 11:36:06 AM

Jacob

Disgusting.

1/1/2008 12:26:45 PM

Niobe

I wonder how the husband would have acted if she had said she wanted to give his johnson to the Lord. "Sure Lorena!"

Great way to become a single father of 2 traumatized kids.

1/1/2008 12:27:15 PM

Mister Spak

"blood smeared on her face and clothes, a Christian hymn playing and a Bible open near the crib where the child was killed. "

Was it a KJV bible? If it wasn't that would explain the problem. Only the KJV bible is the real one, all the others are demonic fakes.

1/1/2008 12:34:58 PM

Ambrielle

I sincerely hope the jurors don't swallow that twaddle. And the minister is charged with manslaughter.

1/1/2008 12:37:40 PM

TB Tabby

Oy. This isn't even the first time I've heard a case of a devout Christian assaulting a child being blamed on demonic posession.

1/1/2008 12:40:10 PM

toothache

Sad...to think that her post-natal depression could have been cured, if not for her religious beliefs

1/1/2008 12:41:27 PM

anevilmeme

Monsters!

1/1/2008 12:44:10 PM

szena

I just read some more about the case. Apparently the mother first decided that the baby was Davidson's wife and wanted to give the baby to him.

Davidson himself decided in the eighties that some other guy's wife had been given to him by God and he's been pursuing her all that time. He wants her to obey God's will and come live with him.

Somehow I don't think the founding fathers foresaw "freedom of religion" being used to protect the batshit insane.

1/1/2008 1:23:04 PM

teajay

I know a guy whose brother suffers from schizophrenia and he discourages him from taking medication because it shows a lack of faith in God.

Of course, even if God exists, their actions would merely show a lack of faith in self (doubt as to whether they had understood God correctly), not in God.

1/1/2008 1:35:28 PM

Niobe

Sad...to think that her post-natal depression could have been cured, if not for her religious beliefs


At her point she was well into post natal psychosis.

What are the symptoms?


* over-active and over-enthusiastic behaviour
* racy thoughts
* grandiose ideas
* excessive behaviour (ie, spending, writing, cleaning)
* elevated or irritable moods
* delusions (false beliefs)
* hallucinations (abnormal perceptions)
* nightmares
* insomnia
* decreased need for sleep
* difficulty with concentration and coordination
* obsessive religious beliefs.

1/1/2008 1:57:55 PM

Illuminatalie

Too bad we couldn't convince this arsehole that demons cause all sickness, and never seek any kind of medical help again for himself or his followers.

1/1/2008 3:15:26 PM

Malfist

Infanticide for Jesus.

1/1/2008 3:23:39 PM

aqualung

I'm sorry, I just can't muster anything but pure hatred for people like this. This is just vile. >:(

1/1/2008 3:39:14 PM

D-OveRMinD

God's PR company at work again.

It's either a miracle from God, he works in mysterious ways, or a demon did it.

How do they explain the demons if she went to church "several time a week?" What's the point of worshipping a God that won't protect you?

1/1/2008 5:36:56 PM
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