Um, outside of the NT, written at least 2 generations after the death of the "messiah", and one oblique reference in Josephus, which witnesses are your referring to?
Saying Jesus never rose from the dead is more like saying Abraham Lincoln never rose from the dead.
Have a nice day.
1/3/2008 3:28:08 AM
Anon: I'd say it's more like Hercules never rising from the dead, not to be nitpicky.
1/3/2008 3:31:42 AM
1/3/2008 3:32:31 AM
So many countless eyewitnesses, yet not one contemporary historian wrote about it. Same goes for Jesus the "person".
To think that the bible is an accurate representation of history is ridiculous and laughable.
1/3/2008 3:35:00 AM
OsirisThere were countless eye witnesses, far too many to be false. The resurrection of Jesus is one of the best supported events in human history.
I would have to say that the 9/11 attacks is the best supported and document event in human history and we still have people who don't believe it. The Resurrection story has several eyewitnesses and depending on whose story you read the numbers fluctuate drastically. The four scripes of the gospels Mark, Mathew, John, and Luke can hardly agree on anything that happened and finally there is no physical solid evidence for anything.
1/3/2008 3:35:53 AM
Read the Bible carefully. There is no actual testimony from the supposed eyewitnesses, just assertions years later that there were witnesses. And they weren't exactly "countless."
1/3/2008 3:38:48 AM
Countless eye witnesses? You don't even learn to count in homeschooling?
1/3/2008 3:55:14 AM
It's worse than you think, Spunky. There is no credible evidence that Jesus ever existed as a historical figure. (Sorry, the Bible doesn't count.)
1/3/2008 4:07:35 AM
Your argument is full of shit. The fact is, is that there are no sources, other than the gospels which document Jesus' resurrection. No one, other than those who had a stake in this belief saw it. Unlike the Presidency of Lincoln, which is clearly documented in hundreds of different documents and sources.
1/3/2008 4:28:09 AM
Oh, too bad. FAIL.
1/3/2008 4:51:18 AM
but but but.........the bible is a very popular book with millions sold! is HAS to be true.
btw i also believe harry potter is as real as the bible,theres millions of copies of them floating around too
1/3/2008 4:55:27 AM
And the Davinci Code is real. So are neopets. There are millions of eyewitnesses who say they exist
1/3/2008 5:24:54 AM
So, where's the documentation of this. Don't say your bible or we'll laugh at you. We want names.
1/3/2008 5:27:32 AM
i dont believe in zeus tho,that was only myth
1/3/2008 5:29:27 AM
I have a book that tells of four thousand people who saw my descent from heaven in the arms of winged angels who said that I was to become supreme ruler of the world when I came of age. All of these witnesses are conviently unavailable for comment, so why don't you just start bowing to me already?
C'mon, I have a book that says it, it was written by God himself and trascribed by my mom.
1/3/2008 5:34:49 AM
I think it was Jesus' dreaming body that went through the crucifixion.
Why not? You think he's unacquainted with the Nagual thing? =P
1/3/2008 5:45:20 AM
I guess that someone has never read the bible
1/3/2008 6:01:27 AM
Conservatively, 1.2 million Americans sincerely believe they have been abducted by aliens.
Far to many to be false, surely one of the best supported events in human history.
1/3/2008 6:06:39 AM
"Life of brian"?
1/3/2008 6:34:58 AM
1/3/2008 8:07:15 AM
The only witnesses, so far, of his resurrection were Mary Magdalaine first, and the Apostles second. So, that makes 13 people, not thousands of eyewitness(and neither of them were). Second, the only account for those "witnesses" we have, is a book written like 60 years after his death. So, take it as the church has always said it is, as a matter of FAITH, not science.
1/3/2008 9:36:23 AM
There were countless eye witnesses, far too many to be false.
Alright, show us the testimonies of, say, one thousand of them. Too hard? How about five hundred? One hundred?
1/3/2008 10:15:46 AM
We have photographs of Lincoln. Show me a photograph of Jesus.
1/3/2008 12:43:55 PM
Cou8ntless as in zero.
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