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[On atheists who were formerly believers]

They were never geniune Christians in the first place. If they were, they would have remained with Jesus, but they left as apostates.

ladylove, Christian Forums 12 Comments [8/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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By definition, an apostate must have been a \"geniune Christian.\" You can't lose your belief if you never had your belief.

2/24/2006 12:35:24 AM


2/16/2007 12:06:39 AM

I is a lion >:3 Rawr!

we werent even christians to begin with

2/16/2007 12:34:00 AM


They were just smart christians.

2/16/2007 1:36:07 AM

Captain Janeway

Dan Barker disagrees with you.

2/16/2007 2:05:03 AM

The non-true-Scotchman gone wild.

1/1/2010 7:05:26 PM


So you can't be a Real True ChristianTM unless you know Jesus personally? Therefore, there are know Real True ChristiansTM, therefore, it is possible to be a real true Christian without knowing Jesus personally, because you cannot know Jesus personally, and so that definition is useless.

9/18/2011 4:25:24 PM


Because you know me and my beliefs far better than I ever could, Ms. No True Scotsman.

11/27/2013 11:10:23 AM

Dr. Shrinker

"Be sober-minded; be watchful. Your adversary the devil prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour."

- I Peter 5:8 (ESV)

Why would Peter have had to tell people that if "once saved, always saved" were a valid theology? The bible raises a lot of important questions for the believer.

You should read it sometime

11/27/2013 2:05:11 PM


I'll give you this, many had doubts as children that grew as they did so they may have announced their Atheism at some point, 15 or 23 years old after Gramma died or the hypocricy got overwhelming. So they may indeed have never been really believers, it is stupid shit after all, but many did believe, and many of them attribute it to being young and indoctrinated and gullible.

Y'see I was never indoctrinated AT ALL, Christmas trappings carry very little but the Jesus, Lord of Peace story, easily mixed in with Santa, Elves and flying reindeer. So I'm kinda an outsider amoung Atheists but even then I never labeled myself full Atheist until 25 or so. Believe me, it's a lot easier when you start learning about other Biblical claims and church rituals when you're 9 to 20 and already immersed in Marvel Comics, actual books and TV fiction. It's why the church wants you introduced while still very young and why (especially Fundamentalists) hate Hollywood, TV and books and,,,well ANY competition.

Told you this broken leg would make me do more longwinded and meandering posts, Bear with me I may be back to wook in a couple weeks.

11/28/2013 6:52:44 AM


I wasn't a Christian. I was a Catholic.


11/30/2013 1:36:07 AM

Hal Jordan

But real Christians are ones that deliberately attack anyone who doesn't believe in Christianity?

11/30/2013 12:21:17 PM

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