For all those who claim there are thousands of religions, it seems there's only 2 major worldwide religions to consider - Christianity and Islam (Muslims). The next religion, Hinduism, is mostly an Indian religion and the fourth highest, Buddhism, isn't even a religion. It would seem unlikely that God would only reveal himself to some isolated group of people and ignore the rest of the world.
Therefore, people have no excuse. It's clear God exists (only the 2%ers, the atheists who probably hate God, disagree) and there's really only 2 religions to consider. I think everyone should examine Christianity and Islam to see which is most likely to be true.
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It would seem unlikely that God would only reveal himself to some isolated group of people and ignore the rest of the world.
It would appear that you are extremly ignorant as to how your religion came about.
It would seem unlikely that God would only reveal himself to some isolated group of people and ignore the rest of the world.
Dude, you just nuked your home base.
"The next religion, Hinduism, is mostly an Indian religion"
Yeah, it's not a religion for humans, but for Indians. Gotcha.
"It would seem unlikely that God would only reveal himself to some isolated group of people and ignore the rest of the world."
Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha! Out of the mouths of babes and children.
"It's clear God exists"
It's clear you know exactly what you're talking about too. Crystal clear.
1) Ever heard of a group of people called the jews?
2) Atheists can only hate god as much as you hate somebody you believe to be fictional
3) If I was to purely examine christianity and islam to see which is more likely to be true, I'd pick islam. the christians claim christ died on a cross and magically came back to life three days later. They claim this is irrefutable because "hundreds of people saw it" but you kind of have to take their word for it; the bible says hundreds of people saw it, but who says the bible is credible? Then we have islam. they claim that if christ was god, he would not have died, and therefore someone else died in his place. the "resurrection" was merely him revealing himself as alive.
Then of course we have the jews, who say christ did die, but he was not god. This seems even MORE likely, as there is no god.
Then lastly, we have the fact that it didn't happen at all, and is merely a fable passed on as truth. You know I could write a ridiculous story and say hundreds of people saw it, and two thousand plus years later, no one will know the difference.
Both are ridiculously contradictory and easily proven wrong or at least flawed to the extent that you can't trust the scriptures due to so many being undoubtably false. Because atheism consists of no real rules there's nothing to prove wrong, less you could somehow prove that an all powerful being that exists outside of what we perceive as reality and breaks every physical law we know exists, of course.
"It would seem unlikely that God would only reveal himself to some isolated group of people and ignore the rest of the world."
If I was God, I'd do that. I mean, you people are making shit up, some Islamists are taking this way too far and killing people...
But the Buddhists just want to find enlightment and have zen. And.. stuff.
"I think everyone should examine Christianity and Islam to see which is most likely to be true." - I did - it's Islam. Now What??
Unfortunately the correctness of a fact does not depend on the number of those who think it true.Yes I know not very democratic, but there you go. Any one,(or none) of the faiths or non faiths could be the right one. Plus both Christianity and Islam are not singular faiths, both are made up of a multitude of different groups all claiming their variant is the one and only true version. You pays your money ...........
Hmmmmm..... let's take a look shall we. Both Christanity and Islam come out of the Middle-East, a very small portion of the world. Both Christanity and Islam are descended from Judaism in some way, which was originally only practiced in a small part of the Middle-East. No where else in the world has there been a monotheistic religion like this one. Despite being so unlikely it appears that God only showed himself to a small part of the world and ignored the rest.
First I had to choose between Christianity and Islam.
I chose Christianity.
Then I had to choose between Catholicism, Protestantism, Eastern Orthodoxy, Anglicanism, Oriental Orthodoxy, and Assyrians.
I chose Protestantism.
Then I had to choose between Adventists, Anabaptists, Baptists,
Congregationalists, Lutherans, Methodists, Pentecostals, Presbyterians,
and Reformed churches.
I chose Lutherans.
Then I had to choose between the Lutheran World Federation,
the International Lutheran Council, the
Confessional Evangelical Lutheran Conference, and the Church of the
Lutheran Confession.
Say what you will, but there is plenty of stuff to choose from.
"It would seem unlikely that God would only reveal himself to some isolated group of people and ignore the rest of the world."
This has been my argument all along. It is highly unlikely and I'm pretty sure said revelation never happened. It was all made up on the spot to give justification to the Hebrews' land claims.
As far as I'm concerned, if the truth was indeed indisputable, there would be no disputes.
Actually, Christianity spread really, really fast. So stop ripping on the 'isolated' thing. Also, stop mentioning Judaism. They got a lot of attention (for obvious reasons) but there aren't actually that many of them. If you assume that the most successful religion is right (due to god's support or something) Christianity wins. Remember the "We're being Oppressed!" chart?
The Hindu thing is, admittedly, quite funny.
ah, i see. if a religion is practiced by indian people, those
polytheistic asian heathens, it disqualifies it from being a real religion. i love the way you operate.
and atheists don't hate god. to hate god, you have to believe in his existence.
we don't choose the truth of a religion based on the majority, btw. religion is not, or should not, be a democracy.
For all those who claim there are thousands of religions, it seems there's only 2 major worldwide religions to consider - Christianity and Islam (Muslims).
Ah yes, the good old "300 billions (or was it trillions) flies can't be wrong, eat shit."
The next religion, Hinduism, is mostly an Indian religion
And never mind that it has about a billion of followers currently, that it is the oldest major religion still alive or that Buddhism, Shinto and a few other Asian religions found it good enough to borrow elements of it...
It would seem unlikely that God would only reveal himself to some isolated group of people and ignore the rest of the world.
Don't look now, Zendell, but you just scored the biggest own goal in the history of own goals. Either you're a Poe, or inconceivably stupid.
I vote the latter.
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"Actually, Christianity spread really, really fast. So stop ripping on the 'isolated' thing."
Christianity spread quickly because of the Roman empire, mate. And it didn't even exist during the time described in the Bible. It took centuries for it to get outside the empire's boundaries.
"Also, stop mentioning Judaism. They got a lot of attention (for obvious reasons) but there aren't actually that many of them."
Comparatively, no. But you're forgetting that Christianity branched off from Judaism. It used to be just another denomination of Judaism, once upon a time. If it weren't for the Jews, Christianity wouldn't exist. So yeah, it's kind of relevant. Besides, God revealing himself to the Jews and making them his chosen people is the premise of the whole book.
"If you assume that the most successful religion is right (due to god's support or something) Christianity wins. Remember the "We're being Oppressed!" chart?"
True, but fortunately, popularity does not determine how correct something is. We didn't say it wasn't the biggest; we're saying it's not the only major religion.
"The Hindu thing is, admittedly, quite funny."
Indeed. He discounts roughly a billion people because they're mostly Indian, but makes an allowance for Islam despite it being centered on Africa & the Middle East.
Well isn't that shocking. Judaism gives birth to BOTH of those religions, is older than both, and yet, is totally forgotten about.
And what about the Jedi Religion? Or the Flying Spagetti Monster faith? They are just as respectable as the faith of violence or the faith of sin.
Christianity is like that popular girl at school. Sure everybody liked her then, but now, her tits are starting to sag, she's looser than Zendell's argument, and even her stepdad is starting to grow tired of her. Also, science is disproving bits of her...
I find it interesting that Judaism and Buddhism don't count, seeing how Christianity is essentially a mix of the two. Jesus' teachings are very reminiscent of Buddha's, funny that.
I agree, a close study of the two will show the similarities and differences. It's notable you ignore the Torah as that's the source that the other two sprung from. I'm sure it's not because only the Christian one Claims Jesus is the son of God and that the other two only see him as one of many prophets
Please do study these people, it may takes months but eventually you'll realize it's all bullshit
"and the fourth highest, Buddhism, isn't even a religion."
Fuck you.
Yes it IS a religion you fucking retard. Some variants just happen to be compatible with Atheism. I would know, I am one. And yes, my religion IS a religion, so shut the fuck up and sit down.
Oh yeah, and between Christianity and Islam, Islam wins by a landslide. But of course, I believe that they're both wrong :P
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