["But they do recognize that almost all progress in civilization comes from science and a President who doesn’t believe in evolution (or atomic theory or acids and bases or electromagnetic theory or any core science) would never be able to set the right priorities."]
This is one of gondramB's standard strawmen. Eliminating evolution would in no way impact science, and gondramB knows it. Nothing of value has ever come from evolution or its promotion. The vast majority of scientific advances have been by, or at the direction of creationists, and without them we would all have to work much harder.
If we could remove the search for the imaginary 'glue' that connects evolution to science from the various government budgets, we could cut taxes by 50%.
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"If we could remove the search for the imaginary 'glue' that connects evolution to science from the various government budgets, we could cut taxes by 50%."
Huh??
Is he so obsessed with this non-issue that he thinks governments spend millions of dollars on it? What's he ranting on about, anyway? Glue???
What possible motivation could various branches of government have for searching for a connection between science and evolution (whatever that means!)?
This is one of gondramB's standard strawmen. Eliminating evolution would in no way impact science, and gondramB knows it.
Except biology. Yeah, evolution is the thing that kind of holds that whole field of science together. Without an understanding of evolution we would have no idea why certain strains of bacteria can't be treated by the same antibiotics that they used to. Oh silly me, that's not evolution, that's just a change in a species genome that allows it to adapt to a changing environment. No evolution is not important to fields such as astronomy but it's highly important to biology and the other sub fields that surround it.
do you really think the government is spending half of your taxes on evolution research? silly bunny, if you're so focused on cutting taxes, try ending the iraq war.
and, because i feel compelled to state the obvious ...
EVOLUTION IS SCIENCE. IT IS PROVEN. WE HAVE THE FOSSILS. WE WIN. CASE CLOSED.
Saying that eliminating evolution doesn't affect science is like ignoring the law of gravity, the law of matter conservation, etc.........another science-illiterate, like the future president.
"The vast majority of scientific advances have been by, or at the direction of creationists"
Examples please... Pencillin? Vaccines? DNA molecule? Heliobacter Pylori?
I just...
Intentional, arrogant ignorance that's this bad makes me want to hit my computer because I can't hit him, it makes me so angry.
I hope he gets a disease that only an evolved vaccine can cure, so that he can see that evolution really did happen and he can spend the ret of his life refuting this crap that he's poisoning minds with.
Maybe then he will have won back humanities goodwill.
A President of the USA who doesn’t believe in evolution would be even more of an international embarrassment than GWB is (assuming that's possible, of course).
Joking apart, how could the US public even consider voting for someone who doesn't accept evolution? I mean, it's the equivalent of writing 'RETARD' on your forehead with a thick black fibretip pen before you go out on the hustings, isn't it?
With the Rs, E and D back-to-front.
"Eliminating evolution would in no way impact science"
And to think, I thought all that biology was the result of years of logical reasoning...
That definitely made this quote.
That's right, evolution exists in a vacuum. It doesn't have any connection to other fields of science...
...except for: archaeology, biology, biochemistry, behavioral psychology, ALL of the medical sciences, environmental science, etc. etc.
"Eliminating evolution would in no way impact science, and gondramB knows it."
The Soviet Union knew it too, until their agriculture system failed and they had to buy their food from the capitalists.
"Eliminating evolution would in no way impact science, and gondramB knows it. Nothing of value has ever come from evolution or its promotion. The vast majority of scientific advances have been by, or at the direction of creationists, and without them we would all have to work much harder."
:'-D
If we could remove the search for the imaginary 'glue' that connects evolution to science from the various government budgets, we could cut taxes by 50%.
No, but if the government hadn't borrowed $7,500 billion dollars since the Reagan tax cuts, we could knock $400 billion out of the budget for the interest we're paying on the IOUs. Just to put that in perspective, the entire amount collected in personal income tax is about $1,200 billion.
From that thread:
"And in the long run, which is more important: science or morals? I say the latter. And I say this as someone who has a Chemical Technology degree and and Electrical Engineering degree. So I am, indeed, a scientist."
Apparently, having two associate's degrees makes you a scientist now.
If we could remove the search for the imaginary 'glue' that connects evolution to science from the various government budgets, we could cut taxes by 50%.
Somehow I don't think our scientific pursuit of the missing links in the evolutionary chain account for that much government spending.
Here's an idea: How about reducing the waste in federal and state governmental spending? That would definitely take a chunk out of their budgets.
What color is the sky in your world, Voyeur?
If you remove evolution from science, you might indeed be able to cut taxes, as biology and medical science would completely collapse, and people would start dying like flies of now-preventable diseases. No functioning government; little or no need for taxes.
Yeah, without ALL the advances done during the black period below, we would all have had to work much harder. Or we might have left the galaxy and had vacation homes on Venus...
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A President of the USA who doesn’t believe in evolution would be even more of an international embarrassment than GWB is (assuming that's possible, of course).
Joking apart, how could the US public even consider voting for someone who doesn't accept evolution? I mean, it's the equivalent of writing 'RETARD' on your forehead with a thick black fibretip pen before you go out on the hustings, isn't it?
Sadly, they could...
"If we could remove the search for the imaginary 'glue' that connects evolution to science from the various government budgets, we could cut taxes by 50%."
There's a common joke among Forestry Service Rangers, when a tourist's complaints include 'My taxes pay your salary.'
The ranger will point out that of the taxes paid by millions of Americans, only a small percentage goes to the department of the interior, of which a percentage goes to the Forestry Service, of which a minute amount goes to Ranger salaries.
They will then pull out a single, shiny penny, hand it to the tourist, and say, "Here. I have refunded the portion of your taxes that went to my salary. You can keep the change."
I suspect that a similar exchange, between a creationist and researcher on an evolution project, would end the same way, with the total portion of any individual's taxes going towards all the biology research at any given university, totaling less than one penny.
But that's just my suspicion. I'd love to see this 50% value and the math you used to arrive at that number.
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