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A poll conducted last year showed that two-thirds of Americans believe in creationism, or the theory that God created humans at a single point in time, while 53 percent believe that humans developed over millions of years from less advanced forms of life -- the theory of evolution.

sub-driver, Free Republic 92 Comments [1/15/2008 2:46:40 AM]
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#380730
Snopester in Exile

Guys? It's a real poll. Sad but true. Here are the actual results, which make only slightly more sense:

A. Evolution

Definitely true: 18%
Probably true: 35%
(Total: 53%)

B. Creationism

Definitely true: 39%
Probably true: 27%
(Total: 66%)

So the percent that overlap presumably only think they're both "probably" true. :/

1/15/2008 5:54:08 AM

#380742


I was wondering what Saddam's minister of information was up to these days!

1/15/2008 6:05:53 AM

#380744


I was wondering what Saddam's minister of information was up to these days!

1/15/2008 6:06:15 AM

#380810
Prager

Somebody's lying somewhere! Sub-driver, is there something you'd like to tell us? Hmmm?

1/15/2008 7:04:41 AM

#380840
ArmandT

@Snopster: Sigh. Still, the poster would stand to make more sense.

1/15/2008 7:35:29 AM

#380879
aaa

DING!DING!DING!DING!DING!

WE have a WINNER!

1/15/2008 8:42:22 AM

#380914


Somebody has a problem with numbers, apparently.

1/15/2008 9:42:15 AM

#380943
booley

why is it that conservatives can never do basic math?

And yet these same people want us to believe they know more about money then the rest of us.

1/15/2008 10:14:04 AM

#380948
Rufus

66% + 53% = 100% rather than 119%

OK

but then, we are are dealing with the school of maths that says pi = 3.000000000

"I can do maths, I can"?

1/15/2008 10:25:48 AM

#380961
Cbr

Actually amusing enough this poll does exist and those were the numbers. It might look strange at first since by adding the numbers you get more than 100% but that isn't correct. The poll is correct since it also counts those that believe both in creationism and evolutionism.

I think the poll was done like this:

1. Do you believe in creationism? Yes/No.
2. Do you believe in evolutionism? Yes/No.

A % of people answered Yes to both.

Of course it's sad that 66% believe in creationism and only 53% in evolutionism, but that says nothing about the correctness of the polling.

1/15/2008 10:46:10 AM

#380968


@Joules: its called Dyscalcula

1/15/2008 11:06:14 AM

#381008
Doctor Whom

If you write 2/3 as a percentage, you see that the number 666 repeats itself over and over. That proves that creationists are going to hell.

1/15/2008 11:58:54 AM

#381013
Nutz

The real question is: Are the 19.666...% of people who apparently believe in both the thoery of evolution and the fairy tale of creationism the stupider group, or does that do the 66.6% that believe only in bedtime stories the looniest?

EDIT: @#409057 Actually I have dyscalculia and it mostly presents itself in algebra where one will confuse numbers and letters. For instance I'll see 'F' and think '4' a lot and other such things.

1/15/2008 12:01:34 PM

#381046
Joules

@#409057

Dyscalcula. Thank you!


1/15/2008 1:02:31 PM

#381047
Ozymandias

I had no idea fundies had their own kind of math.

1/15/2008 1:05:33 PM

#381103
Jezebel's Evil Sister

119.66%?

1/15/2008 1:48:20 PM

#381110
Mister Spak

19.66% of Americans read this:

http://www.fstdt.com/fundies/comments.aspx?q=33466


1/15/2008 1:50:20 PM

#381128
OMFG

Yes! And the other 87.3% believe god created haagen dasz but was never given credit for it.

1/15/2008 2:10:20 PM

#381143
cui bono

Sorry you misread the Survey.
two-thirds of Americans are morons, however those that believe in the "theory that God created humans at a single point in time" sounds like they believe that time is quantised (Plank Scale), and not a continuum, this is a valid theory. Your statement "theory that God ....." means that those who believe the "theory..." cannot be creationists, for they state an "absolute truth" (be it totally false does not matter to them). Hence the survey has 3 distinct & mutually exclusive groups.

1) those that live in cuckoo land and believe that intellect is a tool of Satin and the to think is worse than fornicating with the whore of Babylon while defecating on the KJV Bable.
2) Those that have a confused understanding science ( enjoy watching Star Trek reruns and where crystals, love whale "music" and drive 10km in a 4 wheel drive to place 4 bottles in a recycling bin and believe "God" works in Quantum Mechanical ways.
3) Those that enjoy life and revel in their ability to think and reason.

1/15/2008 2:49:20 PM

#381164
Yama the Space Fish

What base were these guys using?

1/15/2008 3:40:11 PM

#381191
484

FAIL FAIL FAIL!

1/15/2008 4:54:52 PM

#381200
g-21-lto

Unfortunately the wider dissemination of this statistic was retarded by a conspiracy of atheist math teachers.

1/15/2008 5:15:10 PM

#381201
Uberman

Your prankster god, in between burying fake dinosaur bones, has blessed Fundies with mathematical retardation. This is good.

1/15/2008 5:15:38 PM

#381243
Sacha

C'mon sub-driver, this is really simple math.
Three thirds is one whole (in this case the whole population of America) and if two thirds believe in creationism.... what is left over? That would be ONE THIRD who don't believe in creationism.

Now, also, 100% would be the entire population, you subtract 53% who believe in evolution from that and you get 47% who don't.

NOW HERE COMES THE PART WHERE YOU REALLY MESSED UP
one third = 33%
two thirds = 67%

Conclusion: You should have stuck to either percentages or fractions to avoid confusing yourself, because obviously you don't know how to convert them.

1/15/2008 6:06:14 PM

#381255
David D.G.

Sorry, folks, but this is a case of attacking the messenger. He didn't come up with those figures -- they may be pretty stupidly expressed nonsense, but they are not HIS nonsense. The real fault for this idiotic comment lies with the framers of the survey, not with him.

Of course, the implication that facts are determined by majority rule DOES qualify as his own contribution to the idiocy in this situation.


~David D.G.

1/15/2008 6:24:17 PM
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