Not so in many films which steal the very childhood from children. By the way, a glaring paradox haunted me as I tried to find justification in the Bible for the G, PG, PG-13 and R classifications established by the MPAA.
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"...a glaring paradox haunted me as I tried to find justification in the Bible for the G, PG, PG-13 and R classifications established by the MPAA."
Isn't that kind of like trying to figure out how to use a DVD player by reading a VCR manual?
Other glaring paradoxes which may haunt you is that your bible does not mention films or indoor plumbing or cable TV or the internet or computers or internal combustion engines or airplanes or submachine guns or Post-it notes or cheeseburgers or berets or Jodie Foster or ...
The mind boggles at what your bible does not mention.
I don't know. For use of alcohol and intense and explicit descriptions of violence, death, genocide, and sex I would give the Bible a strict NC-17. I mean the first scene has naked people in it.
I'm still trying to figure out where the "paradox" is, exactly. The MPAA not agreeing with the bible is not a paradox. It's a disagreement, difference of opinion, differing views, etc.
A paradox tends to be self-contradiction...you know, sort of like, say, the bible?
So you're saying we should abolish movie ratings as being unbiblical? Go open slather for everything for everyone? Gee, I'd have thought you'd be the sort of self-righteous prick who'd prefer to censor everything that you don't agree with, but that's not the way your argument goes.
Let me get this straight... you are trying to find justification for a modern ratings of something that wasn't around when that archaic book was written, and are surprised you can't find anything?
Why don't you do something useful. Go count how many grains of rice in a 5lb bag.
What? The bible is roughly 2000 years old, cinema has been around for just over a hundred years. I'm not sure when ratings came in but I really don't think you'll find anything about the cinema in the Bible. If you do it's a classic example of how the Bible can be (mis)interpreted to fit anything any fundie wants.
Elsewhere on the site, they magnanimously give the movie 'American Psycho' a record 'zero' (on some arbitrary scale) for horrors such as 'punk dress' and 'long sequence of adult male in briefs'...
I think I might have to mail them a copy of the original novel. Heh, heh... I bet I'll hear their little heads exploding from here in the UK...
'Less Than Zero' anyone? :)
Uhmmm...the paradox lies in the fact that you cringe when a child sees anything even remotely violent, dirty, or what have, but then plunk a Bible in front of them which contains more sex, violence and immoral behavior than ANY movie to date.
Adam (West), Eve (Marie Saint) Noah (Wyle), Abel (Gance)etc. Clearly there were cinemas in Gan Eden.
@John
"He's right. There's nothing in the Bible that says kids shouldn't be exposed to sex or violence - in fact, it doesn't even say they shouldn't be sold into slavery. We're more civilized now than the bronze age Arab goat-herders who wrote the Bible. "
The Bible IS sex an violence and slavery!
"Not so in many films which steal the very childhood from children."
You want to know what stole my childhood, or large portions of it? Religion.
"...a glaring paradox haunted me as I tried to find justification in the Bible for the G, PG, PG-13 and R classifications established by the MPAA."
TB: << Isn't that kind of like trying to figure out how to use a DVD player by reading a VCR manual? >>
TB: I'd say it's more like trying to figure out how to use a DVD player by reading Grimm's Fairy Tales.
Wait, you actually spent the time, energy and imagination to find a justification in the bible for the movie rating system? I really think you should go back to your bible and keep trying until you do. Every minute you spend combing your bible is one more minute you haven't walked into a K-Mart and taken hostages.
I really don't see what he's saying here. By my reading, he's suggesting that film ratings can't possibly be any kind of moral code, because the MPAA haven't copied them straight out of the Bible. But the fact that somebody would actually go through the Bible expecting to find... know what? I'm just going to hand this one over to Mr Gumby:
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Tom (OP), I have read numerous reviews and you, my sir, are a little piece of scum that nit-picks every piece of things being "innapropriate" (you know, the WICKED stuff, like uh--hugging and kissing. WICKED stuff like that). While I, on the other hand hate the MPAA with all my heart, I certainly wouldn't take your "take" on the matter.
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It's better you learn about *gasp* s-e-x, which is only discussed and handled realisticly in R movies, before learning that killing someone produces no blood and you can hide the body easily, like in oh so many PG-13 movies. I am a firm believer in not censoring the movies for a lower rating, but merely letting some more raunchy stuff into PG-13 movies* so kids can get used to some worse stuff they'll see in later R films (which might not be plausible, as parents are having some say in their movies by renting R-rateds to their kids who can handle it).
*=Yes, I have heard of the famous "ratings creep" theory. My explanation: as this generation's mental comprehension of some subjects increases, so should the amount of that stuff be let into the movies they watch. They can handle it.
Yeah, it's not like the Bible has murder, rape, sex, alcohol, slavery, incest, bigotry, injustice, cruelty, or violence.
Oh, wait, I just described 3/4 of the book. I guess you'd better find a new argument, Tom.
That's because the New Testament was written in Greek.
They were called the Gamma, Pi Gamma, Pi Gamma-13, and Rho ratings back then.
Since they stoned children for being disobedient and they married off girls as soon as they menstruated, their book is full of sex and violence and, anyway, apart from that they didn't have anything at all to read, not even a single novel, I understand that such clasification never existed.
Ponchatrain, 11:13...
"And thou shall not form ratings for thy film productions, for that is utter sin. Gaspeth, children, for film ratings are the work of Satan, and the Lord your God will stone thy film-raters with stones made from goat's fire..."
God commanding soldiers to go into a city and kill everyone, including slicing mothers open and aborting fetuses with swords. Two sisters that rape their father. Human sacrifice. Crucifixion. Brutal executions.
Why the hell don't the family values idiots want to ban this wretched thing again?
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