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Just a question I have about the KJV though. Apparently the Greek “Mia Sabbaton” was always translated as Sabbath, except for in 2 cases in the New Testament (I forget the verse numbers) where they were “deliberately” translated as “first day of the week” - apparently to get the ball rolling for Sunday worship. Anyone care to shed light on this issue? It would be scary if even the KJV had an error, worse if deliberate!

Mattwerk, CSE blogs 37 Comments [1/22/2008 8:24:27 AM]
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No, it is not an error. It was deliberate. The KJV is just as flawed (or more so) as any other biblical text out there.

1/22/2008 8:29:31 AM


You think that's the only fuck-up in the bible? Boy are you in for one rude awakening.

1/22/2008 8:32:46 AM

Betsy Newson

No, what's scary is anyone believing it hasn't got any errors.

1/22/2008 8:37:55 AM


This is especially interesting when you consider that US calendars start their week on Sunday, but in England they start on Monday. (These are the only two I can confirm, being the only two countries I've visited.)

So which "first day" is it?

1/22/2008 8:43:02 AM


You know, if that's the biggest flaw in the bible I'm going to go farm talking snakes or something...

1/22/2008 9:37:55 AM

What a shaky fundation of faith you have if an error in a fucking translation shakes you so much.

1/22/2008 10:07:17 AM



1/22/2008 10:07:32 AM

Of course. We all know that translators in the XVI century never committed mistakes.

1/22/2008 10:15:01 AM

Anna Ghislaine

Does it even matter what day of the week you have your Sabbath on? Of course, it makes life easier if everyone has it on the same day, but the names of the days of the week are arbitrary (as is having a seven-day week, come to that); you can have any one of them as your 'rest day'.

1/22/2008 10:43:54 AM


You caught this error but missed the part about 4 legged insects?

1/22/2008 11:24:43 AM

Mister Spak

IS little Matties world crashing down?

1/22/2008 11:27:13 AM

Margaret Murray O'Hell

The KJV is an error.

1/22/2008 11:57:07 AM


Yer an Error.

1/22/2008 12:14:07 PM


Get ready to be scared a whole lot more when you actually grow up, kid.

1/22/2008 12:31:35 PM

Mattural Selection

I'm saddened and ashamed to share a name with you.

1/22/2008 12:47:24 PM


Don't fear a non-existent god, and certainly don't fear reality, kid. You're so close.

1/22/2008 12:49:53 PM

Doctor Whom

Brother Frankie will lead us in the closing hymn.

1/22/2008 1:07:02 PM


The Church Council of Laodicea circa 364 CE ordered that religious observances were to be conducted on Sunday, not Saturday. Sunday became the new Sabbath. They ruled: "Christians shall not Judaize and be idle on Saturday, but shall work on that day."

Uh, oh, Protestants. Guess who's breaking a commandment.

1/22/2008 1:26:31 PM


... apparently to get the ball rolling for Sunday worship.

WTF? By 1611, Sunday had been the day of worship for Christians for over a thousand years.

The KJB does have some deliberate "errors". For example, Deuteronomy 33:17 read "and his horns are like the horns of a re'em:" Not knowing what a re'em was, the translators followed the Greek Septuagint and translated it as "unicorn". But "the horns of a unicorn" didn't make sense; so they changed "unicorn" to a plural: "and his horns [are like] the horns of unicorns:"

The KJB has plenty of instances where they translate two occurrences of the same Hebrew word into two different English words. They explain why in their translator's preface - which many fundies have never read. They also deny that the translation is perfect and warn people not to be like the Catholics who insist on only one translation for all time.

1/22/2008 2:15:14 PM

And didn't it surprised you that snakes speak or that guys live up to 900 years first?

1/22/2008 2:18:52 PM


Keep asking questions. You are on to something.

1/22/2008 2:41:23 PM


It is deliberate. Now that you've come this far, come a little more and you will find that these errors and deliberate changes course through out the entire book.

1/22/2008 2:44:59 PM


Sunday worship? You can blame the Catholic Church for that one although the KJV is an out dated concept.

1/22/2008 4:19:20 PM


Uh oh, I hope this guy isn't going to go into a conniption when he finds out that Wednesday is named after the norse god, Odin (later changed into Wotan, his day of worship was Wednesday)

1/22/2008 7:24:29 PM


I swear, sometimes it's like these people are teetering on the edge, vainly denying the existence of the cliff.

1/22/2008 7:42:30 PM

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