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The more that I study the word of God and science the more “uncomfortable” that I become with heliocentric and much more comfortable with a geocentric system of things. I am seeing more and more that the bible teaches geocentric not heliocentric system. Check this guy’s page out. I have been reading a lot on it and talking to the guy who does it. His name is Gerard Bouw, Ph.D. He makes it fairly plain that you can’t prove whether the galaxy, solar system is either by science. He is a scientist, one of those Ph. D. kinds and there are others, it looks like it is growing.
His page is http://www.geocentricity.com/

Ekkman, CSE blogs 34 Comments [1/22/2008 2:17:37 AM]
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Mike

Occam's Razor says you all fail.

1/22/2008 2:25:00 AM

Durane

Oh, one of those Ph.D. kinds? Damn, Jeb, this guy done gots letters after his name! I plumb reckon he must be pretty fancy!

1/22/2008 2:25:37 AM

Mattural Selection

Is this guy a "scientist" in the same sense that Kunt Hovind is a "Doctor"?

1/22/2008 2:57:59 AM

werewolf

Gerard Bouw, Piled Higher and Deeper. Riiight!

Impressive!

1/22/2008 3:05:24 AM

szena

According to his biography, Bouw was an atheist at the time he earned his Ph.D.

1/22/2008 3:09:07 AM

John

If you make enough harebrained assumptions, you can prove anything.

1/22/2008 3:17:32 AM

Illuminatalie

How the fuck can anyone seriously be this stupid, and filled with so much contempt and hatred for 99.9% of the planet (which is what rejecting such universal knowledge really is)? That entire site is creepy, and the participants should be ashamed to call themselves human beings.

“It won’t be rain but fire next time.”

1/22/2008 3:35:05 AM

The Meromorph

I guess he was lucky his schizophrenia didn't manifest until after he got his Ph.D.

1/22/2008 3:40:51 AM

Mayhem

Dumbfuck for Jesus!

1/22/2008 4:15:30 AM

Renacier

That site says:

'The main difference is that geocentric models must always take the existence of the universe into account whereas heliocentric models always ignore it.'

Oh no! Our Sun worshiping science fails to assume that the universe exists. Woe is us!

1/22/2008 4:43:42 AM

Patches

"'The main difference is that geocentric models must always take the existence of the universe into account whereas heliocentric models always ignore it.'"

And the geocentrist model seems to forget that the entire universe must therefore be spinning fast enough to revolve around the earth in 24 hours. Therefore, the universe itself cannot extend beyond the orbit of Uranus, because any farther than that and celestial bodies would have to exceed the speed of light to make the trip.

1/22/2008 5:21:25 AM

Lilith

The authority of the Bible would be damaged if any one of the mythologies created by tent dwelling shepherds 4,000 years ago therefore it is the entirety of human knowledge outside the Bible which must, by default, be false...

My brain hurts.

1/22/2008 5:41:48 AM

Brian X

When the cognitive dissonance gets too harsh, you need something to get a little further back into your shell. Ask your preacher if Geocentricity is right for you.

(Warning: side effects include ignorance and being spectacularly wrong in public, as well as an inability to appreciate the universe for what it is.)

1/22/2008 8:16:32 AM

NotMe Ph.D

Being one of those Ph.D kind of people, just look at the letters behind my name, I can say with full confidence in the knowledge the human race has produced since Galileo that the solar system/universe isn't geocentric.

1/22/2008 8:45:44 AM

RevDG

Bouw is about as much a scientist as he is a fucking plumber
"ooo look this guy in the internets has a PHD! he must be right!"
thats what i picture is your logic
who the fuck cares if he has a PHD, is he right about what he says?
if he believes bullshit like geocentricity i doubt he right

1/22/2008 9:22:22 AM



Your problem is that you have no idea how science works. Tell me, you have any idea how satellites work, how can we observe astronomical phenomena, how NASA works..........?. If geocentricity were right, things wouldn't be that way. And can you make head or tail what that webpage says and check if what they say is sound?

1/22/2008 9:45:05 AM

anevilmeme

We've had proof the Earth goes around the sun for centuries. If you can't grasp this basic fact then tell your doctor to increase the dosage.

1/22/2008 11:42:56 AM

Mister Spak

Hey Ekkman, the world isn't really round . . .

1/22/2008 11:44:08 AM

georgesmith

Small question: Who says the bible is the world of god? The apostle Paul said all scipture is inspired. Sounds to me all religions' scriptures are inspired by god. Better study those, too.

1/22/2008 12:21:30 PM

McCulloch

Another gem from Bouw's bio
So I started a critical reading of the Bible, from cover to cover, searching for inconsistencies and any contradictions between an infinite God and the God of the Bible. Fortunately, God was watching out for me in that the only Bible I owned was an Authorized Version, the only English Bible free of such contradictions. Any other version and I would have been left with no alternative but agnosticism.

1/22/2008 2:13:11 PM

Sacha

"He has a PhD....... in chemistry!"

1/22/2008 7:19:50 PM

NonProphet


1/22/2008 8:17:26 PM

Whydontyou.org.uk

Turning the clock back for Jeebus.

CSE blogs has always been an IQ black hole, even visiting reduces your IQ by 5 points. The people who regularly post there are so heavily into negative equity they have no chance for intellectual redemption.

I hope they all die in a car crash.

1/22/2008 9:25:04 PM

Euclid

Ekkman doing his best to climb the rankings -- watch your backs, supersport and AV1611VET!

He makes it fairly plain that you can’t prove whether the galaxy, solar system is either by science
Either what? Perhaps you're trying to get at Galilean/Newtonian relativity? In which case, Ptolemy knew, in the 2nd century, that the apparent motions would be the same whether the earth or the sun moved; he then posited possible refutations to either system (that's what good scientists do, whether they have a PhD or not). Ptolemy sided with geocentrism because things like stellar parallax couldn't be measured back then. But he had the refutations to Bouw's bullshit already figured out nearly 2 millenia in advance!

He is a scientist, one of those Ph. D. kinds and there are others
Yes, there are actually lots of PhDs around. I have one, even. Ever heard of a place called "NASA"? Filled with PhDs. And guess what they all think about geocentrism...?

1/22/2008 9:40:20 PM

Old Viking

Geocentric? Let me look into it and I'll get back to you.

1/22/2008 10:30:09 PM
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