Is he proposing a country of one citizen (himself)? There won't be much of an economy there either. I suppose he thinks he will be immune to natural disasters if he secedes?
1/22/2008 11:32:26 PM
Mr. Tambourine Man
Erm, considering that the North still has the advantage over the South out in most areas, I don't see a Second Confederacy going particularly well. More likely than not, it would end up with enormous casualties on both sides(unless either side is stupid enough to use nukes on a country so close to them that they too would be affected by the fallout) and the South as part of the Union again.
1/22/2008 11:41:20 PM
"2. The Confederacy lost because of arms, munitions, and men."
And stupidity. They were stupid enough to think that they could win even though outnumbered and outgunned. Add to that the lack of economy (one product, easily produced elsewhere) and it's a wonder they lasted as long as they did. If they hadn't had better generals, they'd have only lasted six months.
1/22/2008 11:48:10 PM
I have nothing against our friends in the south and strongly doubt many of them would support this kind of lunacy. But the "Confederacy" today is a net receiver of Federal money. If they actually seceded, the rest of the country could enjoy a nice tax cut and the Confederacy would find itself in a significant hole, even if they could maintain the same level of military for the same cost. Mississippi, for example, receives almost $2 in Federal money for every $1 it pays in Federal taxes. Add to that the question of how much, if any, the seceded Confederacy could claim from the rest of the country's Social Security Trust Fund, and the South would be facing an almost doubling of their taxes.
I suspect that given the choice between seceding or buying a new pickup truck or big-screen HDTV, the majority of people are going to choose to stay in the union.
1/22/2008 11:50:24 PM
Fuck it. Let them ceceded and form a Christian theocracy. In a year when they're a third world hell we can just invade and start the Reconstruction all over again since SoF seems hell-bent on recreating the worst of American history.
1/23/2008 12:06:42 AM
The Confederacy lost because they were morally wrong.
They lost because their cause was unjust.
They were outnumbered on the battlefield for those reasons.
1/23/2008 12:08:56 AM
Is it just me, or does he contradict himself?
Is ShieldOfFaith some kind of troll?
1/23/2008 12:17:17 AM
I find this quote particularly delicious since in point 1 ShieldOfFaith is saying that economy doesn't matter and right after that in point 2 he blames the fall of the South largely on the lack of certain industrial products, which equals to blaming... the economy.
Edit - ninjaed.
1/23/2008 12:17:51 AM
Where the motherfucking fuck is Seven Pines?
I have confederate ancestors and I've never even heard of that one.
1/23/2008 12:28:08 AM
Not all southerners are this stupid, I promise.
1/23/2008 12:30:19 AM
I didn't notice dirty bombs in my last reading of Revelation... Since when did God begin employing modern weaponry?
1/23/2008 1:06:54 AM
@484: it's possible he's a remarkably dedicated troll. I'm more inclined to think, however, that he's actually one of these clowns.
You can find Christian Exodus' website here.
I'm surprised we haven't heard more from them on this site, actually.
1/23/2008 1:12:27 AM
Isn't it ironic that he states that god would protect his godly country, when it didn't do so the first time?
1/23/2008 1:28:15 AM
Why would god use the followers of a "false" god to decimate a country filled with those that believe in him?
1/23/2008 1:28:41 AM
The Confederate Army was starting to lose its nerve -- they saw black soldiers fighting alongside white soldiers, and a lot of them started wondering, if not what they were fighting for overall, whether it was really a good idea to keep enslaved people who were every bit as effective as they were at fighting. (Granted, not enough to keep the spirit of racism alive and enshrined in law for another hundred years, but enough to screw with Johnny Reb's head.)
It didn't help, of course, that the Union Army cut off the Confederate West early on and kept heavily Confederate-sympathetic states such as California and Maryland from splitting off, or that much of the Mississippi Valley was pro-Union to begin with.
1/23/2008 1:37:59 AM
Wow, that faith shield on your head really DOES keep all that lernin' nonsense out
1/23/2008 1:43:33 AM
God is "The Rock?"
1/23/2008 1:59:05 AM
I think SoF captures God's endearing qualities rather well.
1/23/2008 2:50:59 AM
I'm sorry, is this person serious?
If God ever did exist, he's long since committed suicide because he saw what kind of people worshipped and admired him.
ShieldOfFaith? That name in itself wraps up what faith is, a shield from the harshness of reality.
Please, pop a riddlin, calm the fuck down, and hang yourself.
1/23/2008 6:19:21 AM
I suspect bad leadership.
1/23/2008 6:35:49 AM
ShieldofFaith, I love you.
"[...]GOD LAID THE EVER LOVING SMACK DOWN UPON YOU[...]"
You brighten my day with such sentences. Perhaps it's only funny because I'm sleep deprived... but it still made me smile.
1/23/2008 6:40:11 AM
THE EVER LOVING SMACK DOWN 4 JAYZUS!
1/23/2008 7:00:17 AM
1/23/2008 7:41:57 AM
Now HIM I would worship
1/23/2008 9:43:03 AM
The South lost, get over it!
1/23/2008 10:00:35 AM