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The basis for morality is this: "If everyone else in the entire world were to do this, would it be good for society?" That being said Gay relationships cannot naturally lead to offspring (a petri dish is not natural). If everyone in the whole world was to turn homosexual then that would be the end of the human race through natural reproduction. That sure doesn't sound moral to me. We can apply the same test to murder, abusing drugs, stealing/lying, sex with animals, etc. Basically Homosexuality is just as immoral as murder, you can't beat that logic.

TD, Politico.com 80 Comments [1/24/2008 10:45:35 PM]
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Honker Muddlefoot

And what would happen if everyone in the world pretended to understand Emmanuel Kant?

1/24/2008 10:47:09 PM



If everyone in the whole world was a monk then that would be the end of the human race through natural reproduction. That sure doesn't sound moral to me. We can apply the same test to murder, abusing drugs, stealing/lying, sex with animals, etc. Basically being a monk is just as immoral as murder, you can't beat that logic.

1/24/2008 10:52:28 PM



One millionth confusion of concepts. One, being gay doesn't mean being sterile. Gay sex can't produce offsprings, but artificial insemmination, for example, does.
Besides, your hypothesis about the whole world is just ridiculous. Following your logic, if everybody were born blind, hemophilic, with Down Syndrome or any other genetic disease, the world would end. The question is, homosexuality is an abnormal trait that some human, a minority, inherit or acquire or a combination of both. By abnormal, I mean, that it's not the usual pattern, not that it's bad. Nature produces homosexual individuals in a tiny proportion. Why?, no idea, but, as long as they don't harm anybody, what's the problem?. It has been demonstrated that the proportion of homosexuals is the same in all civilisations(more or less)and it's present in virtually any community in the world. Its proportion never surpasses 10%, do you think they're a threat?. Again, be careful invoking arguments involving naturality and children, because it's the slippery slope that, later on, leads to forbidding marriage to people who are old to procreate or sterile ones and makes more difficult to debunk abortion.

1/24/2008 10:54:25 PM

Malfist

So the answer would be Bisexuality? It would allow for continued growth of human race but also allow population control.

1/24/2008 10:55:49 PM

anevilmeme

"....you can't beat that logic."

I'm sorry where was there any logic involved?

1/24/2008 10:59:53 PM

AnonymousAsshole

TD, an estimate of 10% of the population is purportedly gay. I think that was a typo, and the reality is closer to 1%. The other 90-99% are not and never will be gay, therefore, you fail.
As to the remainder of your post, WTF?

1/24/2008 11:04:47 PM

Alfred

This is an example of an idiot trying to use what he perceives as "logic" in an argument.

Gay relationships, involving consenting, willing adults affects no one else in society, and deprives no one of his/her rights.

I just beat your logic.

1/24/2008 11:04:55 PM

WMDKitty

@Anonymous

No, it's 10%.

1/24/2008 11:07:31 PM

James

If the whole world were to turn chaste, natural reproduction would end, but I seem to remember Jesus being all for it.

Luke 20:34-36

34 And Jesus answering said unto them, The children of this world marry, and are given in marriage:

35 But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:

36 Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.



Therefore Jesus is immoral, and you are a tool. Now, go away.

1/24/2008 11:10:30 PM

werewolf

Sure I can since no logic was involved.

Let's try a simple one: who told you that a petri dish is
unnatural?

1/24/2008 11:12:10 PM

Mudflappus

How about all of those little half humans you blow all over your hand while perusing the underwear section of the JC Penney catalog TD? That's murder too ya' know cause every sperm IS sacred.

1/24/2008 11:14:21 PM

Septic Sceptic

Doesn't homosexuality tend to emerge in animal populations when overpopulation becomes a problem? Too tired to look for a source, but I imagine it would serve a community if a certain number of individuals had a dormant "gay gene" that was activated when resources were strained, redirecting the sex drive and restoring some equilibrium to the population.

The energy I spent speculating there could have been used googling what I was talking about, but a pox on it, i'm submitting my theory for peer review.

(That would be you folks.)

1/24/2008 11:17:12 PM

Marissa

It's at times like this, I'm really, really glad asexuality is not an Issue in the way honosexuality apparently is.

By his logic, not wanting sex is also just as immoral as murder. Would really cut down on those sex crimes, though =3

1/24/2008 11:18:56 PM

Doctor Whom

If everyone in the entire world were in sales, no one would be left to invent or produce the things to be sold. Therefore, being a salesperson is immoral.

1/24/2008 11:19:20 PM

Madame Scarlet

Imagine if everyone in the entire world were born a woman. The human race would go extinct!

The above scenario is just as likely (perhaps even moreso), and the morality is exactly the same. People can't control what gender they're born as, and people can't control who they're attracted to.

1/24/2008 11:19:49 PM

Professor M

And what would happen if everyone in the world pretended to understand Emmanuel Kant?

Hell, even Kant just pretended to understand Kant. Otherwise he would have seen the gaps in logic big enough to drive a Hummer through.

1/24/2008 11:20:05 PM



doing what is moral is doing what benefits the largest amount of people with the least amount of harm.

quite frankly I think marriage as a whole should be outlawed, as it tends to do more harm than good.

However, denying a significant portion of the populace a rather mediocre (see: depressing) 'right' to marry is ridiculous.

god gave man fire, and he created firetrucks.
god gave man love, and he created marriage.

1/24/2008 11:39:01 PM

Osiris

How 'bout this? As long as it doesn't hurt, kill, or threaten someone else in anyway it is moral. Since consensual sex amongst people of the same sex does neither of these it's moral, but since murder does it's immoral.

1/24/2008 11:42:59 PM

Tempus

By this logic, using a condom is murder.

1/24/2008 11:43:50 PM

(H9)

Who cares? We'll NEVER reach a point when even half of us will be gay, so STFU, n00b!

1/24/2008 11:46:28 PM

(H9)

Who cares? We'll NEVER reach a point when even half of us will be gay, so STFU, n00b!

1/24/2008 11:46:28 PM

TB Tabby

By that same logic, celibacy is immoral.

1/24/2008 11:50:53 PM

CT

The basis for morality is this: "If everyone else in the entire world were to do this, would it be good for society?"

Celibacy, quiverful, unemployment, war, gaming... face it, if everyone did any of those, it really wouldn't be good for society.

Given your argument seems based on what if everyone did something exclusively...
Celibacy? No more human race, really bad for society.
Quiverful? Do we really think every family having ~14+ kids is good for society?
Unemployment? Just imagine society where everyone was unemployed...
War? Hell, if everyone did war and only war, it'd end up with one person alive at the end... I'm sure society would benefit from that.
Gaming... heh, if everyone did gaming and nothing else, so much for the human race...

1/24/2008 11:51:45 PM

aqualung

1. It's not gonna happen, and 2. Who cares?

also, I heard it was 3% of the population is homosexual. You fucktards act like it's 93%. >.<

1/25/2008 12:02:21 AM

SSJPunk

Using similar logic, if everybody in the world became a policeman, human society would collapse, because there's nobody to grow crops, maintain equipment, etc. Every profession known to man would be immoral as murder. Except maybe wilderness survival experts.

1/25/2008 12:02:59 AM
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