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"to pray IMHO is a waste"
"Dear Lord, please place a new M3 in my driveway next month so that I may glorify you with Godspeed."
Daniel would find that obscene and yet he withholds something HE believes would be helpful to his fellow man out of hatred.
1/25/2008 6:51:36 AM
I just re-read Matthew 7. The highlights are "judge not lest you be judged, do unto others as you would have them do unto you, why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?"
In other words, your interpretation of your selected quote exactly contradicts the point of the whole chapter you take it from.
Fundy parody or Fundy moron, it's so impossible to tell the difference!
1/25/2008 6:52:26 AM
1/25/2008 7:02:32 AM
3 to 6 percent of Palestinians are
Christians, for fuck's sake!! Get your facts straight, Danny boy.
And by the way... "waste of prayer"? Is there only a certain amount of prayer to go around? Have we reached "peak pray" yet? Or don't you want to bother your god with that stuff when he's busy enough helping Mary-Lou to find her car keys, or Billy-Bob's football team to win the match? Sheesh...
1/25/2008 7:08:28 AM
who says that they want your prayer?... heck who says anyone want your prayer? u can keep ur prayers to ur self.. =.=
1/25/2008 9:02:37 AM
Matt. 5:44 But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you...
So even if what you said was true, Jesus still says you fail.
Sheesh, don't' any of these guys ever READ the Bible? Why do non-believers always seem to be Bible Literate then the fundies are?
1/25/2008 9:36:44 AM
booley wrote: "Sheesh, don't' any of these guys ever READ the Bible? Why do non-believers always seem to be [more] Bible Literate than the fundies are?"
Perhaps reading the bible makes you more of an unbeliever? I have over half a dozen versions of the bible in my house, which is not bad going for an atheist.
Fundies have to ignore parts of the bible. Apart from several bits of it being contradictory, an awful lot of it not only disagrees with reality, but disagrees with what they want reality to be. So the only way they can functionally use the bible is by cherry picking. And, in logic, cherry picking is the forbidden fruit.
1/25/2008 10:22:19 AM
Dan's prayers are "sacred pearls" yet he has a "humble opinion"
1/25/2008 10:44:50 AM
"..They would kill you or I given the chance because Allah told them that it is ok to do so.."
"..but to pray for those who God hates and will destroy.."
Pot, meet Kettle.
1/25/2008 10:52:27 AM
Even Jesus says you phaiel.
1/25/2008 12:03:01 PM
is it really possible to 'waste' a prayer?
1/25/2008 12:04:38 PM
"to pray for those who God hates and will destroy is IMHO a waste of prayer "
This is why the Palestinians don't pray for you.
1/25/2008 12:10:38 PM
And that makes you no better than these other human beings you call dogs and swine, Daniel. Fucking hypocritical douche.
1/25/2008 12:13:43 PM
I bet Jesus would have prayed for the Palestinians. After all, he prayed for the guys that were nailing him to a cross.
1/25/2008 12:45:38 PM
What an ignorant twit. The god of the Jews, the Christians, and the Muslims is ALL THE SAME GOD, just each group calls him by a different name.
You know, like your boss calls you Dan, your mother calls you Daniel, your wife calls Danny, and we call you Stupid...no matter how many names you are called you are still just the one person. The god of the Christians goes by many names, and Yahweh, Jehovah, and Allah are just a few of them.
1/25/2008 12:59:00 PM
Jezebel's Evil Sister
What? You're not praying for the Palestinians. Oh noes!!! However will they survive without your prayers??
1/25/2008 1:10:26 PM
And you are, IMHO, a waste of air. The fucking last thing this world needs is more blind bigotry.
1/25/2008 1:54:06 PM
whatever happened to love thy neighbor, that includes the once you don't like too!
1/25/2008 2:09:34 PM
Ah, prayer. The best way to do absolutely nothing at all and still think you're helping.
1/25/2008 2:16:41 PM
In case you're wondering, Palestinian can be Christian. The enemies, darling, are the ultra-orthodox Jews who are pushing their government to expell both Muslim and Christian Palestinian. And remember Jesus, "love thy enemy and pray for those who persecute you". I love fundies when they don't even read the Bible.
1/25/2008 2:27:32 PM
I’m sorry, but I do not pray for the Palestinians.
They had their land taken away because the UN countries felt they should have their own nation, but couldn't be bothered to give any of their own land (there are lots of good sites for potential new settlements in Europe and the Americas both, but oh no, they had to land it smack in the middle of where it would be the least welcome). They were driven into refugee camps in the hundreds of thousands in the war that started right after Israel's creation, and four million of them live as refugee. They are now brutally oppressed. And you don't pray for them?
Jesus said in Mat 7:6 "Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls before swine. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and then turn and tear you to pieces."
Feel that Christian love! What happened to 'love your neighbor like yourself' or 'turn the other cheek'?
My prayers are sacred. They are pearls not to be given to swine. The Palestinians hate Christians. The Palestinians hate the Jews.
Good thing you don't hate them back, then. We'd get an evil circle where the fanatics of Christianity, Islam and Judaism competed to hate more than their enemy, and we'd end up with bigotry, missile attacks, suicide bombings and a War on Terror with the armies of Christianity and Islam fighting killing each others by the thousands.
They are the enemy of God and Israel.
They believe in the same God you do. And what if they're enemies of Israel? It's not like Israel are enemies of them, or that Israel and the UN stole their bloody land.
They would kill you or I given the chance because Allah told them that it is OK to do so.
The Old Testament, held sacred by both Jews and Muslims, commands believers to not only kill non-believers, but also to destroy their cities and salt the ground so that nothing will ever grow there again (Deuteronomy 13:13-17). Moses himself killed 3000 of God's 'chosen people' for worshiping a golden calf (Exodus 32:19-28). Does that mean every Chrisitian and Jew out there is secretly plotting to destroy every city in the world with nonbelievers? I don't think so.
Yes, pray that all come to know Jesus and be saved, but to pray for those who God hates and will destroy is IMHO a waste of prayer
Oh? I would think that the ones destined for destruction were the ones who would need prayer the most?
1/25/2008 2:27:40 PM
@ Nutz : Is it possible not to waste a prayer?..
1/25/2008 2:40:19 PM
We need more christians like this. I'll gladly take the ones who won't "throw pearls before swine," as in not exposing me to your testimony or public prayers.
If those people would just follow their own book, we wouldn't have a separation of church and state issue.
1/25/2008 2:40:37 PM
Yes, act like prayer actually DOES something.
1/25/2008 2:43:47 PM
I'll gladly take the ones who won't "throw pearls before swine," as in not exposing me to your testimony or public prayers.
I also like the 'when you need to pray, get into your closet and shut the door' part.
1/25/2008 3:02:57 PM
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