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[Regarding peace signs]

Another hand signal is the Vulcan peace sign. It is supposed to mean "Live Long and Prosper," and can be seen in Star Trek.

Vulcan was a sun deity who was associated with fire, thunderbolts, and light. The festival in honour of him was called the Vulcania in which human sacrifices were offered. "According to Diel, he bears a family relationship to the Christian devil.' It is fascinating to know that he married Venus, another name for Lucifer or the devil. What is even more interesting is that Vulcan is adored in Masonry under the name of Tubal Cain. In the Masonic Quiz Book the question is asked: "Who was Tubal Cain?" The answer is: "He is the Vulcan of the pagans.''

David J. Stewart, jesus-is-savior 19 Comments [1/26/2008 3:30:21 PM]
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It's always fascinating to see how uninspired early christians were, stealing their mythology from everyone else.

Speaking of which, my art classes are way behind me, but weren't early Renaissance renderings of Mary represented as Venus/Aphrodite, whom you name as Lucifer? Would that make Jesus the son of God and the Devil?

1/26/2008 7:03:14 PM


None of that made any fucking sense.

1/26/2008 9:03:11 PM


First: Sounds like somebody needs a really nice long talk with Leonard Nimoy (http://youtube.com/watch?v=G1d83XOORP0), long story short, it's actually a Jewish hand sign.

Second: Vulcan was the god of the forge, not the sun. He made Jupiter's lightning bolts in his forge, and was never called Lucifer.

1/26/2008 11:31:22 PM

Old Viking

Ah, it's David J., this time making up his own mythology.

1/27/2008 12:08:14 AM

Actually, it's the hand sign Jewish priests make when praying. Nimoy is Jewish and came up with the idea of using it in Star Trek.

1/27/2008 12:42:10 AM


Venus, Lucifer? Someone needs a mythology lession.

Lesson 1. Garden of Eden.

1/27/2008 3:45:56 AM


@Athar, the planet Venus is also known as the Morning Star, which is also known as Lucifer. David J. is, however, combining two separate mythological traditions, based on the fact that Lucifer can refer to the PLANET Venus.

1/27/2008 5:19:02 AM


Basic nonsense.

1/27/2008 7:57:52 AM

Circle Takes The Square

Vulcan wasn't the God of the Sun, that was Apollo.
Vulcan wasn't the God of thunderboldts, that was Zesus.

Vulcan (or Hephaestus) was the God of fire and metalworking.


1/28/2008 12:07:53 AM


Indeed he was like Thor, a Forge god. A god of the new religion of Iron due to Iron's vaguely magical properties since early iron would have come from meteorites which would have been regarded as magical gifts from the Gods.


1/28/2008 9:53:01 AM

It's fucking fiction. Never meant to be taken seriously.

1/30/2008 12:24:11 PM


Star Treck is biblical prophecy

Who'd a thunk it.

Although I think this belongs on fundies, not here.

2/1/2008 12:37:48 AM


Venus is supposed to be a beautiful woman, not the devil.

It has "Masons" in it, it's in the right place.

3/9/2008 11:01:03 PM


"That doesn't seem logical"

4/20/2008 10:51:19 PM


Vulcan a SUN god? No ... way. He's the god of metalwork and fire who has his forges UNDERGROUND.

10/15/2008 1:21:06 AM


Highly illogical, captain.

Seriously though. Trekkies are the devil now too? Who's next?

10/1/2010 12:29:17 PM


No, you idiot, Vulcan was not a sun god. He was the god of fire and craftmanship, associated with volcanos.


10/2/2010 11:05:04 AM


Also, pretty sure the Romans didn't practice human sacrifice.

10/2/2010 11:07:55 AM


*facepalm* Okay, I'll admit to doing some serious six-degrees-of-seperation in regard to Vulcans, but at least I get my facts straight.

Vulcan is the Roman version of the Greek deity Hephaestus, who was rather ugly and got thrown off of Mt. Olympus and forced to be a blacksmith. He also was cheated on by his wife, Aphrodite/Venus, who had a thang with Ares/Mars.

Venus, by the way, was the goddess of love. That's right, LOVE.

(My theory about Vulcans supports my Kirk/Spock slash theory: Kirk and Spock's story parallels that of Alexander and Hephaestion. Shatner also once played Alexander in a failed TV pilot. Vulcan = Hephaestus, from whom the name Hephaestion is derived. The general consensus is that Alex and Heph were boning.)

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