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You know when you claim that something is supported by science, it better be supported by science, otherwise you look silly.
Hiding after thousands/millions/billions/trillions of years is not science.


This is a question to all evolutionists: Do you believe that you evolved from a rock? I give you all the time you need. Trillions of years, even more, take all you want.

Futurity, Darkfall Off-Topic 41 Comments [1/30/2008 9:46:30 AM]
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kakeng



That is all kids

1/30/2008 10:11:22 AM

Prager

Dear Futurity,

Do you believe your god made you from dirt?

1/30/2008 10:52:55 AM



making strawmen about science is not science either.

1/30/2008 12:18:30 PM

Urh

Short answer - no. Long answer - no, nobody intelligent has ever thought that, and you're a fucking idiot if you do.

1/30/2008 12:51:07 PM



Sorry to interrupt you with that but that's one of the few things that are common between your beliefs and science "from dust to dust".
You believe someone pointed his finger at the rock and turned it into a man. We believe that the elements in the rock combined with water and energy created a environment in which molecules reacted to the building blocks of life.

To me the latter one makes more sense.

1/30/2008 1:15:26 PM

Brain_In_A_Jar

Short answer: yes - long answer: yes, but the first few stages aren't called evolution; the process starts out with erosion of said rock & dissolution of simple chemicals, then a bit of thermophysics, and basic organic and possibly electro chemistry, followed by abiogenesis. Then evolution kicks in. And we don't need trillions of years; billions are adequate.

1/30/2008 1:21:23 PM

Horsefeathers

"This is a question to all evolutionists: Do you believe that you evolved from a rock?"

Where ever do you people get all that straw?

1/30/2008 3:49:13 PM

Sultan417

“Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe.” - Albert Einstien

1/30/2008 5:22:22 PM

caitshidhe

Not to inject too much science into the conversation--that'd be like feeding a gourmet French meal to a schnauzer--but the first "life" that existed on this planet was a very rudimentary creature called a Stromatolite, which looks like a lump of asphalt. So in a sense, yes, we DID come from a rock-like life form.

But that's science. Fundies don't like science.

1/30/2008 5:54:59 PM

Caustic Gnostic

Everyone and everything "evolved" from an unthinkably huge hot expanding cloud of protomatter. The intermediate steps are open to discussion.

1/30/2008 6:01:14 PM

Jesus The Evolutionist

"Do you believe that you evolved from a rock? I give you all the time you need. Trillions of years, even more, take all you want."

No.
Wow, that was unbelievably quick. It didn't really even require more than a second. Just a little word of advice. Yes or no questions typically don't require a long time to respond. You might want to rephrase it next time. Maybe asking "how" we evolved from rocks might warrant a more detailed answer.

1/30/2008 6:01:40 PM

Father Heathen

You need to know what science actually is before you can dispute whether or not something is scientific, son.
Evolve from rocks? It's easy to "refute" evolution when you make up your own bullshit defintion.

1/30/2008 7:18:50 PM

MK

Damn you, Kent Hovind. Damn you, Ken Hamm. Damn you all to hell. This person's ignorance rests squarely on you.

1/31/2008 1:26:32 AM

Annabella

The stupidity of this quote took my breathe away.

Seriously *GASP* I can't *GASP* expand lungs.

Stupidity *GASP* levels *GASP* too high!

1/31/2008 1:36:51 AM

Reverend Davidius

Do you believe that you evolved from a rock?

There could have been a single-celled organism that could make a fine living inside the pores of rocks, in fact, I'm sure there is one now.

In our infinite universe, it's just plain foolish to categorize things under "possible" and "not possible". On the other hand, one could simply give a degree of "likelyhood" to a claim based on the evidence.

There is more evidence in favor of evolution than creation if you just do ANY amount of independent research, thus evolution is more "likely" to be true.

Thank you.

1/31/2008 1:46:30 AM



Actually you're bibles the one that says we come from dust.

I believe that I came from my parents (that's what my mother told me anyway). My brother told me I came from under a rock.

Who to believe?

1/31/2008 2:05:42 AM

somegie

no, like many of the good people here, I think that would be silly. Like believing I was magically transformed out of dirt. I mean, how ridiculous or incompetent would you have to be to buy into such...

oh, I see. Well, good luck to you.

Wait, luck is an affront to your god. Sucks to be you I guess. Maybe in the next li... Not there either, huh? Oh well. It's not my job to save you.

1/31/2008 2:41:57 AM

tracer

caitshidhe wrote:

"Not to inject too much science into the conversation--that'd be like feeding a gourmet French meal to a schnauzer--but the first "life" that existed on this planet was a very rudimentary creature called a Stromatolite, which looks like a lump of asphalt. So in a sense, yes, we DID come from a rock-like life form."


Actually ... no.

Stromatolites -- at least, those stromatolites suggestive of actual biological activity -- were never alive. They're small geological formations created by the excretions of certain ancient bacteria living in the same spot for several generations. They're not so much bacteria fossils as fossilized bacteria poop.

1/31/2008 2:46:10 AM

Septic Sceptic

Hiding after thousands/millions/billions/trillions of years is not science.]

This is the part that stumps me. Who is hiding? And why?

"Crap! It's been a trillion years since Darwin proposed his theory and no rocks have turned into people! The creationist are going to be here any minute to hear our explanation. Quick! Everybody under the table!"

Or possibly:

"I'm Futurity's brain! Those facts will never find me hidden under this blanket of religion. Never in a trillion years!"

Hmmm. I think he was intending the first statment, but everybody heard the second.

1/31/2008 3:07:20 AM

FMG

Certainly. Except its not "rock" but "chemicals".

3 billion years it took for us to get here.
Trillions would make it so much easier. Hell the universe has'nt existed for THAT long.

1/31/2008 9:40:11 AM

Mister Spak

This is a question to all fundies: Do you believe you were made of dirt? I give you all the creators you need, and creator creators and creator creator creators etc.

1/31/2008 12:22:59 PM

Heather

I really don't need that long - no I don't believe I evolved from a rock. I'd be very surprised if any evolutionists believe that. You sir are an idiot.

1/31/2008 12:46:07 PM

ScienceDT

Evolved from a rock? The time that it takes for me to know that organic material did not arise from inorganic material is about .7 seconds.

1/31/2008 3:12:00 PM

Quantum Mechanic

"Trillions of years, even more"

Hate to break this to you, Edison, but the universe isn't that old.

1/31/2008 4:34:36 PM

Nirjuana

Strawman of the month, anyone?

1/31/2008 8:08:59 PM
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