Err... The scholars of the dark ages all got their knowledge from the church. Plato, Pythagoras and Aristotle all taught that the earth was spherical before Christianity came along and taught that it was flat.
11/22/2007 12:49:27 PM
hmm... the scientific community always thought flat earth was a load of shit, the church however...
11/22/2007 3:36:07 PM
"very much like evolutionists today...[they] try to distort and misinterpret the clear teaching of Scripture in order to 'save face' with the 'scientific' community."
Don't want to sound like a prick or anything, but I do sort of agree with his/her point about theistic evolutionists. Slightly.
11/22/2007 4:13:13 PM
The funny thing is that the debate over flat and round earth finished off with Columbus but was more or less settled from the 3rd century BC, you know, two centuries after the Bible was written down first time. And even funnier, it was resurrected by a group of 19th century crakpots who thought that science was replacing God in many areas. Pretty much like..............well, some guys over there.
3/19/2010 3:07:06 AM
Columbus' voyage had nothing to do with the shape of the world, that was just a legand made up by Washington Irving. Like Sleepy Hollow.
3/19/2010 3:18:14 AM
actually the Bible says the Earth is flat.
3/19/2010 9:17:43 AM
"Christians who believed the earth was flat tried to distort and misinterpret the clear teaching of Scripture in order to 'save face' with the 'scientific' community."
More like they had to move the goalposts, when on 4th October 1957, the USSR launched Sputnik 1, amirite? And in a single stroke, science - and Soviet science, at that - destroyed Genesis in the Bible cosmologically. Presumably by fundies at that time claiming that on October 3rd, God changed the 'dome' that was the 'firmament' into an atmosphere.
Then of course, on 12th April 1961, they sent up Yuri Gagarin. Presumably the day before, God changed the Earth from a flat disc into a sphere, amirite? Just so that, when he looked through the window of his Vostok 1 capsule, he'd see a spherical Earth. Oh, and when he was in orbit, he said:
'I looked and looked, but I didn't see God'
Thus the final clinching proof. Not only that the Earth wasn't flat, nor had a 'dome' above it, thus destroying Genesis (and thus the Bible) cosmologically, but the fact there was no great deity residing in the heavens.
Not for nothing were you in the US so terrified of the Soviet space programme. And not just because of the political ramifications, and potential military applications, of they being the first into space.
With the continued Russian co-operation - and construction - of the International Space Station, and of course data sent back from deep space probes sent in the 1970s and beyond, to say nothing of when the Large Hadron Collider does what it was built to do, you fundies are going to have to move the entire pitch, never mind the goalposts.
I'm surprised you fundies haven't got metaphorical arms like Atlas's from having to continually shift your theological positions, what with all the discoveries made in the last century or so. Darwin's discoveries & those onwards have effectively destroyed Genesis in the Bible biologically.
3/19/2010 9:25:03 AM
Except the ancient Greeks had measured the diameter of the Earth with remarkable accuracy.
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