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God does not need a creator because he IS. This is the crux of it. There is no need for the creator to have a creator.

God does not need to prove himself or that he exists because that would put the proof or logic greater than himself. When he says he is that is all that we need. This is logical.

Nikk, http://www.city-data.com/forum/ 46 Comments [2/2/2008 10:33:31 AM]
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Amanda

No, this is desperation to believe that your life means something.

2/2/2008 8:21:50 PM

Count Spatula

"This is logical."

Whatever helps you sleep at night, pal...

2/2/2008 8:28:47 PM

Old Viking

When he says he is that is all that we need.

Nikk is what you call "an easy sell."

2/2/2008 8:41:36 PM

John

When he says he is that is all that we need.

Well, sure. But He hasn't said He is. Some anonymous bronze age Arab goat herder said He is.

2/2/2008 9:30:46 PM

Nutz

I'd consider your idea of God not needing a beginning if God at least had a present.

2/2/2008 9:53:12 PM

Michael

God does not need a creator because he IS. This is the crock of shit. There is no need for the creator to have a creator.

God does need to prove himself or that he exists because that would put the proof or logic greater than himself. When he says he is that is all that we need. This is illogical.


2/3/2008 9:50:09 AM

Fanatic-Templar

Well, I'm writing a book. That make me a Creator. Therefore, I don,t need a Creator.

Hurray for fundie 'logic'!

2/3/2008 5:54:04 PM

Zane

Yes, but where did God come from. Something can't spontaneously exist, fu***** moron.

2/3/2008 6:07:23 PM

Mattural Selection

So by your logic, I am god. You have never seen me and the only proof to you that I exist are some words that claim that I am god and that I exist.

Damn, this circular logic is making me dizzy.

2/4/2008 2:29:29 AM

McCulloch

You're right, God does not have to prove himself. Those humans who claim that there is a God have to prove themselves.

2/4/2008 3:19:03 AM



You fucking fail at logic.

Epicly.

2/4/2008 4:33:03 AM

Vintersorg

Don't mistake stupidity for Logic...

It's the same kind of logic as:

- I fit in my pants
- My pants fit in my suitcase
- Hence, I fit in my suitcase

2/4/2008 10:41:00 AM

NonProphet

This post made me dizzy.

2/4/2008 4:06:21 PM

David D.G.

"God does not need a creator because he IS. This is the crux of it. There is no need for the creator to have a creator.

God does not need to prove himself or that he exists because that would put the proof or logic greater than himself. When he says he is that is all that we need. This is logical."



Ah. This is obviously some strange usage of the word "logical" that I wasn't previously aware of.


~David D.G.

2/4/2008 6:31:51 PM

Lightman

This guy isn't particularly fundie at all. He's not saying "Christ" or "Allah" or "Jehovah". What he's saying could very well be a deistic argument (now, the quote is taken out of context, so he could very well be a fundie).

2/8/2008 2:17:51 AM

shutterbug

Ah this Nikk guy is fundie fucktard til the day he dies.

10/2/2008 2:39:22 PM

Shadoboy

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaand... how do we know he said it?

10/3/2008 2:42:55 AM

Jt

Heh. Logic.

8/6/2010 2:05:34 PM

Swede

So all designers and constructors just pop into being?
That's strange; my husband was created by his father and mother, yet he is a constructor, i.e. a creator.

Him saying that He is, might be all YOU need. We, on the other hand, need tangible evidence, or we'll put him on the Imaginary Friend shelf, right next to Aragorn, The Celestial Teapot and The Flying Spaghetti Monster.

8/6/2010 2:16:35 PM

PiGirl13

"This is logical."

No, it's not.

4/2/2011 1:42:30 PM

Justanotheratheist

Oh yes, very logical. Can't argue with that logic. No sir.


4/3/2011 1:03:07 AM
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