[in response to "Why not set it so He only has to kill, say, a badger?" in a discussion on salvation and Jesus' crucifixion]
You want a badger to be your saviour? Now you're starting to think like an atheist. They worship nature --- not us.
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"They worship nature --- not us. "
Wait... So you admit to worshiping yourselves? You're really slipping, VET.
Leave it to AV to pack so much stupidity into three short sentences.
In the immortal words of Bugs Bunny, "It is to laugh".
You know, I'm a Christian, but I have to admit that the notion of a badger being our saviour is actually pretty badass.
Oh, and last time I checked, atheists didn't worship nature. You'r thinking of hippies (bad joke alert!). You've got to remember the differences between your enemies, AV.
They worship nature ---not us.
Anyway, atheists don't worship anything. There's nothing to worship. We take responsibility for our own lives rather than relying on 'good' and 'bad' spirits to direct our lives. But I guess that's a little beyond a Christians ability to understand.
BTW....... GO BADGERS!! this friendly message brought to you by the University of Wisconsin.
For as much as they (say) worship their God, they do spit on his so called creation don't they?
"Ugh nature"
Well if he is indeed "God" and indeed almighty... Then he really wouldn't have needed to go through this song and dance of saviours.
Indeed the whole Satan thing should have ended faster than Tyson vs. Tiny Tim. He is all powerful and satan is not... Infact something tells me God is kind of like Rocky. On the ropes before coming out with something from somewhere to defeat his foes... Seriously. With that much power the amount of unnecessary stuff God does is hilarious.
Well, since they already have the snake, and judging from all the other visions a LOT of mushrooms, might as well go for the gold and put badgers in. Badgers badgers badgers badgers badgers badgers badgers badgers.
Savior from what? We're talking about God "saving" us from Himself for a curse He put on us Himself for eating a piece of His magic fruit. Why does there have to be a "savior" at all? Why can't He come down onto the top of a mountain like He did for Moses and say "OK, I'm sorry I got so bent out of shape over the fruit thing. I'll let anyone off the hook who asks me politely".
First of all, badgers have the right to live too. Second of all, atheists do not worship badgers, nature, or anything else. This post is kind of funny, though.
Re: FMG's post;
If God is so powerful, etc. can he make a rock so big that he can't pick it up?
Well, then, can he make an enemy so bad that he can't whup him?
heh heh
About a dozen people beat me to this, but yeah, I thought of Weebl's badger toon too. Anybody else picture them popping up on crosses with the words "Badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, Saviour, Saviour"?
Though this is actually a pretty good question. Jesus loaded up a herd of pigs with demons and drowned them. Why not load all the sins of the world into a badger (Or snake. Or mushroom.) and sacrifice that? Are we to assume that this was beyond the powers of J.C, and by extension, God?
These deities even make the most appalling cock-ups of their own business, I don't see why theists believe they'll be of any help with human matters.
I've heard the old saying, "if you love something, let it go free." I guess the fundy spin is, "If you love something, kill it and build a religion around it."
pladecalvo wrote:
We have the all-powerful, all-knowing creator of the universe sitting on his magnificent throne in heaven. He looks down onto earth and says to himself:
"those evil humans down on earth. I hate what they are doing. All this sin... Since I am all-knowing I know exactly what the humans are doing and I understand exactly why they commit each sin. Since I created the humans in my own image and personally programmed human nature into their brains, I am the direct author of all of this sin. The instant I created them I knew exactly what would happen with every single human being right down to the nanosecond level for all eternity. If I didn't like how it was going to turn out, I could have simply changed them when I created them. Since I am perfect, I know exactly what I am doing......but ignore all that. I hate all these people doing exactly what I perfectly designed them to do and knew they would do from the moment I created them. I tried killing all the humans and animals once in the flood. That certainly did not fix the problem. So here's what I am going to do. I will artificially inseminate a virgin. She will give birth to an incarnated version of me. The humans will eventually crucify and kill the incarnated me. That, finally, will make me happy. Yes, sending myself down and having the humans crucify me -- that will satisfy me."
Ummm! It makes no sense to me. Why would an all-knowing being need to have humans kill himself (Jesus is God, after all) to make himself happy? Especially since it is a perfect God who set the whole thing in motion exactly the way he wanted it? The whole story of the crucifixion is absurd from top to bottom if you actually stop to think about it."http://christianforums.com/showpost.php?p=42613680&postcount=33 )
LOL you guys beat me to it.
Wasn't there an episode of South Park where God turned out to be a badger, or a woodchuck or something?
mushroom, mushroom....
aaa, Illuminatalie, and others:
It's actually a holy trinity.
In the name of the badger, and the mushroom, and the snake, it's a snake, RAmen.
Well, at least Mother Nature manifests herself in tornadoes, hurricanes, illnessess..................I mean, if we're going to stick to FACTS.
Er, that would be the pagans, AV. Not atheists.
No, they are NOT the same thing.
@Philbert McAdamia
"Well, then, can he make an enemy so bad that he can't whup him?"
He did, according to the Fundies, as Satan seems quite adept at outsmarting and outmaneuvering him.
AV1611VET obviously didn't pay attention in Sunday School, or they'd know the Apostles Creed:
I believe in Mustelid, the Great Boar, the Tunneler under the earth, and in the Badger, his striped Son, our Lord: who was conceived of the Spotted Mushroom, born of the Singing Weebl, suffered under Python Viper, was baited, gassed, and burrowed. He descended into Sett. The third month he arose again from hibernation. He ascended into heaven and bobs at the right hand of Mustelid the Great Boar, whence he shall come to snuffle at the honey bee and the earthworm. I believe in the Spotted Mushrom, the holey hillside burrow, the dancing on the plain, the pugnaciousness of skunks, the cultivation of the fungi, and the vision psilocybian. Amen.
Way to miss the point there, Vet.
(Or perhaps he was attempting to dodge it -- it's really hard to tell sometimes with these people.)
@Paler_Face; it is not that we [atheist/agnostic] find certain things unworthy of worship, it is that we lack that whole part of our lives altogether. We do not worship, therefor we are not.
On another note;
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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