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If Obama is truly a believer in Jesus, and has made Him Lord of his life, why does he maintain his ties to the Muslim Faith by retaining his Muslim name. I mean, even Saul changed his name to Paul after his conversion, and others throughout the Old and New Testament were renamed by God after they came face-to-face with Him.

righteousdude2, Baptist Board 60 Comments [2/3/2008 3:17:39 PM]
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Oh I dunno, because Senator Obama is not, nor has he ever been, a Muslim?

2/3/2008 3:31:32 PM



2/3/2008 3:32:19 PM

Whoa, a God who founded the JEWISH religion is impressed by a follower who changes from a JEWISH NAME to a ROMAN NAME? You really aren't very bright are you dude?

2/3/2008 3:39:48 PM

Jesus Klingon

From the thread: Barack is an african form of Baraka which means "blessing". Hussein means "good looking". Arabic Christians likely have similar names.

There are many European names that have pagan associations. For instance, Brenda is a Norse name meaning "sword" and Eric is a Norse name meaning "eternal ruler". Do we require those folks to change their names if they become Christians?

- Gold Dragon

Gold Dragon ftw.

2/3/2008 3:43:39 PM


As someone rightly pointed out later in the thread, if Obama had changed his name, the same people would be accusing him of trying to hide his alleged Muslim ties.

2/3/2008 3:48:34 PM

Philbert McAdamia

Why did my grandpa change his name often? Just because the cops were after him? Why did he use French names? Because he thought the ladies would like him better? (Worked on Grandma) Why did he run to the South and call himself Robert E. Lee? Just to get tarred & feathered and run out of town on a rail when the locals figured out his scams?

What's in a name? A rose by any other name smells just as sweet.

2/3/2008 3:50:16 PM


It's his name. Why should he have to change it, regardless of his religion? My last name is French because it was forced upon my Native American ancestors by French settlers. I'm not French, but it's my name and I'm keeping it.

2/3/2008 4:08:25 PM


So it his fault that his parent have gave him a "not-enough-american" name?

2/3/2008 4:15:48 PM

Quantum Mechanic

Lying for Jesus again, I see.

2/3/2008 4:15:52 PM


One example in 2000 years and suddenly its mandatory?

Just admit you don't like him, don't go looking for obviously flimsy excuses.

I don't like Hilary Clinton. See? Its easy. I wish I could, fellow female support and all, but I don't.

Man up and admit you just don't like the guy.

2/3/2008 4:30:39 PM

Doctor Whom

So all of the Christians who have Jewish first names (and some of America's most common first names are straight out of the OT) aren't Truly Saved™ True Christians™, or are you just engaged in special pleading?

2/3/2008 4:33:23 PM

Hawker Hurricane

But Saul didn't change his name when he converted, he changed it after he converted a Roman on Cyprus. Read your own Bible!

2/3/2008 4:37:27 PM


Hey, selfrighteousdude, did you change YOUR fucking name when you were "saved?"
I thought not.

2/3/2008 5:28:12 PM


oh, that's just so fucking stupid!

2/3/2008 5:51:15 PM



2/3/2008 5:52:39 PM


Damn! My name is David. Now do I have to become Jewish?

2/3/2008 5:54:31 PM


Hard to believe this is the mental level some adults operate on. "Obama is bad because his name sounds like Osama". You know, when I was seven years old I was much smarter than that!

2/3/2008 6:08:17 PM


"why does he maintain his ties to the Muslim Faith by retaining his Muslim name."

Including the ties to his father?

This interpretation of Christianity kinda reminds me of Scientology, it's just more disgusting.

2/3/2008 6:09:03 PM


What's in a name? A rose by any other name smells just as sweet.

Quoted For Truth, Beauty And Epic Win.

2/3/2008 6:12:31 PM

Obama. Is. Not. A. Muslim. How many times must we say it to get it through your thick heads, fundies? And even if he was Muslim, as long as he kept his religion out of politics, I couldn't care less. Grow up.

2/3/2008 6:19:24 PM


How can one have ties to the Muslim faith when one never was a Muslim?

2/3/2008 6:29:19 PM


Just what would you have him change his name to?


You know damned well he is not, and never was, a Muslim. Why don't you just admit that you're afraid of a Black man becoming president of your country?

2/3/2008 6:36:33 PM


He should change his name to something American. Like, something Navajo or Sioux. Maybe Geronimo. I would settle for something Canadian like Silap or something Mexican like Montezuma - at least that's American.

2/3/2008 6:42:38 PM


I was born and raised in America, but my name is latin.

Should I change it to an english name?

2/3/2008 6:42:57 PM

NJ Osprey

My last name contains two "z's" and a bunch of consonants in combinations that are not at all common in English. Phonetically, it puzzles most folks when they try to pronounce it for the first time.

Although it might be easier for people if I changed it to its English equivalent (“Thomas’ son” or Thomas or Thompson), my family’s name reflects my tribute to my grandparents who left everything that they knew in pre-World War I Europe (in what was then the Russian and Austro-Hungarian empires) and made a new life in America.

Who we are is tied up with our family history. One does not discard one’s past without discarding oneself.

And maybe that is the problem with the “born agains.”

2/3/2008 6:58:10 PM

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