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Guys! guys! guys! i'm not saying that atheists don't have morals or ethics , i'm saying that if 'I' were an atheist i wouldn't bother with them.... And once again...if i want to rape and pillage your village then why not! Can you give me a reason outside of christendom why i shouldn't do these things.

Brain Damage, Christian Forums 31 Comments [7/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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gte

Because it would make you a fucking dick, dick.

6/7/2006 7:13:37 PM

Julian

Because you will die a horrible death if you try.

You should read you bible more - those things and more were commanded by your God.

You will find that Western values were actually a product of the Hammurabic Laws, not what your evil God said!

Yes, God is evil - who says so? God!

1 Samuel 16:14
But the Spirit of the LORD departed from Saul, and an evil spirit from the LORD troubled him.

1 Kings 14:10
Therefore, behold, I will bring evil upon the house of Jeroboam, and will cut off from Jeroboam him that pisseth against the wall, and him that is shut up and left in Israel, and will take away the remnant of the house of Jeroboam, as a man taketh away dung, till it be all gone.

2 Chronicles 34:24
Thus saith the LORD, Behold, I will bring evil upon this place, and upon the inhabitants thereof, even all the curses that are written in the book which they have read before the king of Judah:

Jeremiah 4:6
Set up the standard toward Zion: retire, stay not: for I will bring evil from the north, and a great destruction.

Jeremiah 18:11
Now therefore go to, speak to the men of Judah, and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem, saying, Thus saith the LORD; Behold, I frame evil against you, and devise a device against you: return ye now every one from his evil way, and make your ways and your doings good.

Jeremiah 47:37
For I will cause Elam to be dismayed before their enemies, and before them that seek their life: and I will bring evil upon them, even my fierce anger, saith the LORD; and I will send the sword after them, till I have consumed them:

Jeremiah 45:5
And seekest thou great things for thyself? seek them not: for, behold, I will bring evil upon all flesh, saith the LORD: but thy life will I give unto thee for a prey in all places whither thou goest.

Jeremiah 44:11-13
[i]* Therefore thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel; Behold, I will set my face against you for evil, and to cut off all Judah.
* And I will take the remnant of Judah, that have set their faces to go into the land of Egypt to sojourn there, and they shall all be consumed, and fall in the land of Egypt; they shall even be consumed by the sword and by the famine: they shall die, from the least even unto the greatest, by the sword and by the famine: and they shall be an execration, and an astonishment, and a curse, and a reproach.
* For I will punish them that dwell in the land of Egypt, as I have punished Jerusalem, by the sword, by the famine, and by the pestilence:

And of course, good old Isaiah 45:7.
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

6/8/2006 2:56:43 AM

pauline

because that isn't nice.

11/26/2006 1:19:24 AM

Patches

Unfortunately, humans have this little thing called empathy. You know, that irritating feeling in your gut when you know you've hurt someone. Involuntarily wincing when you see someone else kicked in the nutsack. These natural empathetic reactions serve as deterrent enough to people hurting each other. Therefore, people hurt each other when they find a reason to override these feelings, such as:

-Believing you are better or more deserving than the other person
-Believing that the other person deserved it
-Believing that your reward for doing it will more than compensate for the guilt

And what exactly is it that is often used as an excuse for people to hold these feelings? Hint: It isn't atheism.

11/26/2006 1:37:58 AM

CousinTed

Because the collective people of my village could kick your ass?

(Alternate Answer: Because it's immpossible to have sex with a city)

11/26/2006 2:48:26 AM

MILF-chan

First because logic dictates that each individual is sovereign over their own life and this must be respected.

Second because logic dictates that allowing more people to live, and thereby having a far greater pool of skills, labor, and genetic stock for the reproduction of the species, is a very good idea.

Third because experience shows random acts of violence will meet with vendettas and retaliatory actions, which will certainly be counterproductive to oneself.

Fourth because no sensible or good being will ever allow someone into paradise who doesn't have a personal moral compass, and only bases their actions on the instructions of others, and what they stand to gain or lose.

11/26/2006 2:58:57 AM

hairband

Self preservation. If you know that you enjoy living, and living well, then you should be aware that other people also enjoy it; to believe otherwise would indicate that you place yourself above other people and aren't going to give a fig about anything, anywhere, without fear of damnation. So, with all these people who enjoy their lives, and who know other people enjoy their lives, there would presumably exist a common understanding that to fuck up the status quo would invite retaliation, placing your own happiness in jeapordy.

Comments like these make me think that all fundies are psycopaths.

11/26/2006 7:51:50 AM

hubbub2

Question: \"Can you give me a reason outside of christendom why i shouldn't do these things.\"

Answer: .357 Magnum.

11/26/2006 10:19:15 PM

punchybird

What a scary thought that it's just Jesus and God keeping you from doing these things.

1/1/2007 12:02:39 AM

szenah

If you can't think of a single reason not to do those things then we're all quite relieved that you're not an atheist.

1/1/2007 12:16:23 AM

David D.G.

Considering that Christianity teaches forgiveness of all your Earthly sins, can you give me a reason inside of Christendom why you can't do these things?

It would seem that atheists have a much higher regard for morality than Christians, since it isn't based on any threat of eternal torture or reward for any specific belief, but on wanting to do what's right for its own sake.


~David D.G.

1/1/2007 5:16:42 AM

Mr_Vorhias

Gosh, I dunno.

The police will come and beat your ass?

3/11/2007 5:53:25 AM

anti-nonsense

Guys! guys! guys! i'm not saying that atheists don't have morals or ethics , i'm saying that if 'I' were an atheist i wouldn't bother with them..

And the truth is revealed, Brain Damage is first class Asshole who cannot control his own behavior.

3/11/2007 6:06:04 AM

TurdLeader

1. The police will come after you.
2. Angry mobs will come after you.

4/11/2008 1:41:44 AM

SpiderWeb

if christianity is the only thing keeping you from raping and stealing, i'm very relieved you're a christian.

4/11/2008 2:10:43 AM

Falyne

Enlightened self-interest, empathy and character. Douchenozzle.

4/11/2008 2:40:00 AM

melange

All three of the Abrahamic religions condemn rape and murder, right from the ten commandments and the earliest edicts of YHWH on. That's two religions outside of Christendom right there.

Outside of them, there's a variety of other religions (Sikhism, Zorastrianism, Mithraism, Jainism, Shintoism, Hinduism, Daoism, etc) as well as philosophies (Pacifism, Humanism, Confuscism etc) and religious philosophies (Buddhism, since many people can't decide which group it belongs in) that also condemn murder, rape, and the other crimes you listed.

Beyond the purely philosophical and theological, there's also the practical. As others have posted, violence towards one group is often provocative of returned violence. Thus, the need for some level of stability and self preservation has driven humans to culturally select for some guidelines.

Which brings us to another group of reasons: legal. In the modern era, prevention of genocide might be low on the list of priorities, but with some level of regularity leaders and propagandists behind the act are punished (unfortunately not often enough I must admit). On a small scale, you're much more likely to be caught, tried, and either imprisoned indefinitely or killed.

In short, there's millions of reasons outside of Christendom.

6/2/2008 1:22:35 AM

Horsefeathers

"Guys! guys! guys! i'm not saying that atheists don't have morals or ethics , i'm saying that if 'I' were an atheist i wouldn't bother with them...."

How nice. Please keep your Babble close to you and read it often. Sociopathic tendencies are not looked on favorably by society as a whole so I'm telling you this for your own protection.

"And once again...if i want to rape and pillage your village then why not!"

Because that would be detrimental to myself and those of my village.

"Can you give me a reason outside of christendom why i shouldn't do these things."

Aside from the one above? How about the fact that I and the rest of the village would assemble en masse to kick your ass? Like I said, keep reading that Bible of yours. It's for your own protection.

Just because you personally may not see anything wrong with your behavior doesn't mean that the rest of society isn't going to keep you in check. Prisons are full of people who thought they could do as they damn well pleased while society had other ideas.

6/2/2008 1:36:38 AM

Feminazi

Can you give me a reason outside of christendom why i shouldn't do these things.
How would you like it if someone raped you?
How would you like it if someone stole from you?
How would you like it if someone murdered your girlfriend?

Yeah, thats what I thought.

6/2/2008 2:40:43 AM

Dharmabum

Well, one good reason not to do all that raping and pillaging in my village is that if you try it I'll take my shotgun and blow your stupid fundie ass away.

6/2/2008 2:45:36 AM

Quantum Mechanic

Because the villagers will kill you.

7/8/2012 10:38:51 AM

Nagol

You're not saying that atheists don't have morals or ethics, you're just showing everyone that you don't have morals or ethics.

7/8/2012 11:38:51 AM

Frelus

The angry mob coming after you.
/psychopath

7/8/2012 1:54:52 PM



at my village we had a few men with axes and guns to discourage that kind of thing. Think Police and the court system.


7/8/2012 4:39:26 PM

Ebon

"Can you give me a reason outside of christendom why i shouldn't do these things."

A) Because of human empathy; B) Because we would kill you instead.

Also, if your faith is the only thing stopping you from murdering people, you frighten me.

7/8/2012 4:59:28 PM
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