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You guys are trained to interpret history by a process called uniformitarianism. You see a faucet dripping one drop of water per minute into a glass that has 600 drops in it, and you interpret that as the glass having been there at least 10 hours, with no one around.

I'm trained to interpret history by a process called catastrophism. I see a faucet dripping one drop of water per minute into a glass that has 600 drops in it, and I interpret that as, at one point, the faucet having been turned on, then off again, by a transcendent Person.

AV1611VET, Christianforums.com 65 Comments [2/5/2008 5:33:34 PM]
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solomongrundy

Actually, I'm trained to use Occam's razor.

2/5/2008 5:38:04 PM

Osiris

So if a cup of water is half-full you would just assume that a magic invisible person somehow exploded the other half of the water?

2/5/2008 5:38:58 PM

TerriblyAmused

Occam's Razor, bitch.

2/5/2008 5:39:33 PM

Mister Spak

You're trained to interpret history by a process called goddiddit. You see a faucet dripping water into a glass. You don't understand how plumbing works. You jump up and down, wave your arms around while shouting GODDIDDIT!! GODDIDDIT! GODDIDDIT! GODDIDDIT! GODDIDDIT!

2/5/2008 5:48:42 PM

TB

Mister Spak wins an internet.

2/5/2008 5:52:42 PM

TerriblyAmused

@TB:

2/5/2008 5:53:35 PM

484

How much fail can you cram into one paragraph? The question has been answered!

2/5/2008 5:56:26 PM

Caustic Gnostic

[See previous comments]

The goddess Athena also thinks you're very fucking stupid, AV.

2/5/2008 6:01:46 PM

Mike

The fail! It hurts so much!

2/5/2008 6:08:05 PM

ScienceDT

That's actually an okay interpretation. But for you to substantiate the interpretation, you have to say more than "a faucet was on" - and that explanation has to be consistent with everything else we know about said faucet.

The "drip" you refer to has been observed. The "running faucet" you allude to has not. Lean towards the drip.

2/5/2008 6:09:53 PM

Fishbrains

Our way the evaporation, temperature, wear on the faucet all point to a constant drip.

His way there is no consistency, requiring a variety of other catastrophic events to account for anomalies.

2/5/2008 6:15:40 PM

Mr. Tambourine Man

Of course, you would also argue that the faucet couldn't possibly have dripped for 10 hours because someone told you that the faucet didn't exist until a minute ago, right?

2/5/2008 6:19:05 PM

caitshidhe

First prove that this "transcendent Person" exists. Definitively. Beyond the shadow of a doubt. Then, and ONLY then, can we talk. Until then, I will assume the most logical situation is true: that the faucet has been on for ten hours.

Oh, and "GODDITIT!! GODDITIT!!" doesn't count as proof.

2/5/2008 6:32:02 PM

Doctor Whom

You guys are trained to interpret history by a process called realitarianism. You see reality, and you interpret it consistently with other reality that you've seen.

I'm trained to interpret history by a process called bullshitism. I see reality, and I make up bullshit to explain it.

Is that a fair characterization?

2/5/2008 6:32:48 PM

Necronomikron

@Doctor Whom: Pretty apt description.

2/5/2008 6:40:53 PM

Paco the Droid

I wonder what would happen if this guy were shown the security camera tapes that capture how full the glass was for the last 10 hours? Probably think it was devil out to fool him.

2/5/2008 6:47:19 PM

www.evolvedrational.com

GODDIDIT!!!!!!!!!!!111one!!!eleventyone!!!!!111

2/5/2008 7:15:37 PM

approximate

I'm trained (in a half-assed way) in plumbing. If I see a dripping faucet, I first check the taps to make sure they were shut off completely. If so, I fix the goddam taps, rather than blaming some fucking poltergeist.

You Fail again, AV.



2/5/2008 7:16:10 PM

Mark

This is a shitload of fail, a SHITLOAD.

2/5/2008 7:46:57 PM

Pat McGroyne


I'm trained to interpret history by a process called catastrophism. I see a faucet dripping one drop of water per minute into a glass that has 600 drops in it, and I interpret that as, at one point, the faucet having been turned on, then off again, by a transcendent Person that doesn't exist.

FIXED

2/5/2008 7:53:14 PM



Whatever names you put to it, it doesn't count as evidence. Next?

2/5/2008 7:58:31 PM

Euclid

Then why not interpret it as the whole glass having been filled last Thursday by the Invisible Pink Unicorn tipping the contents of the Giant Space Teapot into it. Then magic gremlins dripping out of the faucet (according to a Poisson distribution with a mean rate determined by the number of instances of the letter R in Act II of Marlowe's The Jew Of Malta) each drinking a small amount of the Teapot water, leaving 600 drops as of yesterday afternoon, at which point the gremlins all died because of a virus from Venus, brought to Earth by the aliens that built the pyramids (and abducted Elvis)?

Or would you like to borrow Mr Occam's nice razor?

2/5/2008 8:03:03 PM



@ Osiris:
Well, what rational person WOULDN'T think that?!

2/5/2008 8:03:54 PM

TerriblyAmused

As if we needed more proof this guy is the physical embodiment of EPIC FAIL:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catastrophism

2/5/2008 8:06:12 PM

Don'tLookBehindYou

Ah. Vet. Again.

What's with fundies and using "-ism"

2/5/2008 8:20:24 PM
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