Everytime "science" (which is falsely called so), "discovers" something new, evolutionists have to go back and change some parts of one of their theories. Amazingly enough, no scientific discovery has ever caused Biblical creationists to have to change their stand.
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I bet it has something to do with that *fingers in ears* "la la la la la goddidit" response creationists resort to when a scientific discovery contradicts the Bible. You know, discoveries like how old the Earth is, or fossils.
Of course there are no evolutionists to have these theorys you imagine, so its a moot point,
But still science is self correcting,
And religious fundamentalism is not.
Same shit, different millennium. Being loyal to shit only proves you're a shithead.
Science is always growing in understanding, and confidently leads the human family into the future.
Even you, 'Brother', would sincerely hate a world where your bible has complete dominance. The Dark Ages were called dark for a reason.
Amazingly enough, no scientific discovery has ever caused Biblical creationists to have to change their stand.
And none ever will. Anyone who can explain discrepancies between Jesus' genealogies in Luke and Matthew by claiming one was for Mary and the other for Joseph, or explaining the presence of Nathaniel among the disciples in John but not the others by claiming Bartholomew had two names, or explaining how a supernova determined by direct triangulation is 170,000 light-year away by claiming the speed of light must have changed should have no problem finding some bizarre way of making almost anything in the Bible agree with their preconceived ideas.
["science" (which is falsely called so)...]
No. That's what it's called. You're thinking of creationism, which is falsely called science.
I'd say that was a good try, but no it wasn't. You're just a cretin.
"Everytime "science" (which is falsely called so), "discovers" something new, evolutionists have to go back and change some parts of one of their theories."
Thats because science is built upon checking theories with mounds of data and evidence that are constantly streaming in. Thusly with every new discovery our knowledge increases and our theories are prone to some change. It's not about making our theories stand up, its about making sure they're right. Where's your proof of a creator?
"Amazingly enough, no scientific discovery has ever caused Biblical creationists to have to change their stand."
That would be because you're simply too closed minded to look into it.
Goddidit is an excuse for refusing to think, not a stance supported by proof.
Now STFU and keep shuttin' up.
"no scientific discovery has ever caused Biblical creationists to have to change their stand."
A baseball thrown at a blind man will not cause him to flinch, either.
That's why its called SCIENCE
Propose Hypothesis,
Test Hypothesis,
Modify Hypothesis as needed,
Retest Hypothesis.
Do they not teach this anymore?
"Everytime "science" (which is falsely called so)"
From wikipedia:
"The word science comes through the Old French, and is derived from the Latin word scientia for knowledge, which in turn comes from scio, "I know".
Sounds fairly accurate to me. Are you sure it's not your complete and utter pig-fucking-ignorance that's to blame?
" Amazingly enough, no scientific discovery has ever caused Biblical creationists to have to change their stand. "
Amazingly enough, fundies never change their opinions, no matter how much new information is discovered.
"The word science comes through the Old French, and is derived from the Latin word scientia for knowledge, which in turn comes from scio, "I know".
Which is funny, because the word translated as "science" in that passage is "gnosis." Guess who Paul was preaching against? That's right, the Gnostics. It's a total misinterpretation to call that verse a warning against false science.
Uh...that's how it's supposed to work.
Science tests and corrects its mistakes. Creationism won't even admit to mistakes as glaring as a boil on the end of its nose, let alone correct (read that "change") anything.
That's why its called SCIENCE
Propose Hypothesis,
Test Hypothesis,
Modify Hypothesis as needed,
Retest Hypothesis.
Do they not teach this anymore?
I'm not sure if they ever did, at least where I come from. They teach you loads of known equations and facts, and generally just expect you to infer the proper scientific method of finding out new ones by yourself. Yes, I think this is deplorable.
I detect much win and much fail in this sector...
The point of theories is that they can be changed and improved.
The point of biblical creationists is that they are morons who are so set in their way of thinking it is an insult to the human mind which is capable of such amazing ability that they willingly shackle it. The equivalent would be to use your ferrari to pull a caravan... Or using laser vision to heat soup.
"Amazingly enough, no scientific discovery has ever caused Biblical creationists to have to change their stand."
I need to ride my dinosaur over to my 900 year old uncle's house so we can stone his child who insists on wearing red mixed fiber clothing - by the way they live in a house of cards.
So your problem with science is that more information is being discovered by scientists? How dare they attempt to refine their theories and learn more about the universe and the world in which we live. Darn them to heck.
Amazingly enough, no scientific discovery has ever caused Biblical creationists to have to change their stand.
Yep. Fundamentalism in a Nutshell.
@lumax: win.
In science there is no absolute answer to everything, but clear definitions according to the evidence, and yes, if we collect evidence that god is real, we are willing to make that change.
it's called FACT GATHERING. Something religionists don't do. For those that understand reality, TRUTH is not absolute. Facts make realities change. Another thing, evolution is NOT A THEORY - IT"S A FACT!
"HURRR! NEW EVIDENCE SCARES ME!"
Wow. What a bunch of crankery. There really is no hope for humanity, is there?
That's because scientist are devoted to learning the truth. Which is why, whenever they are proved wrong they go back and change whatever was wrong to the truth.
However whenever those who are concerned only with "biblical truth" are proven wrong, they simply ignore it and leave whatever was wrong still wrong. So, they will never arrive at the real truth.
Science literally means knowledge, yet most of what we call science is just theory. I think you all are missing the point. Seems to me like he's saying that many theories of science are always having to be changed because they were wrong to begin with - but science has yet to actually PROVE anything that's contradictory to the Bible. Scientists struggle for years, climbing mountains, trying to find and prove the truth - then when they finally get to the mountain peak, they're greeted there by a group of theologians who have been setting up there for centuries! Maybe one day science will begin to catch up with the Bible.
No, Bible Believer; I feel it is you that is missing the point.
Science, when it works correctly, is an ego-free, constantly improving discipline of reason and facts. It takes the body of evidence and tries to figure out what is going on that causes those facts. Hypotheses are generated to try and creatively assess the facts. Then, when an hypothesis is determined to not only fit all the evidence, but is also successfully used to predict events when new evidence comes along, it becomes theory. If at any point new evidence contradicts the hypothesis (or even a theory), the new evidence is used to improve (or, in extreme cases, completely nullify) the hypothesis or theory. Scientists are not psychologically damaged by this process because the whole _point_ of the scientific process is to improve our understanding of how the universe works.
THAT is the point.
Not only is it no big deal when hypotheses or theories are improved, it is _celebrated_!
The folks like Brother here cannot accept improvements to their understanding of the universe, because their assumptions of an infallible piece of literature prevent them from doing so.
"Amazingly enough, no scientific discovery has ever caused Biblical creationists to have to change their stand."
for that, you need a brick
@NonProphet
"Something tells me that Brother Josh thinks the sun revolves around the earth."
He has to, to be truly Biblical, he also has to be at odds with many creationists as many won't argue for that one. Then again, I notice they'll not disagree with their fellows unless pushed. Lot of leeway allowed WITHIN the ranks.
example: letting Kirk Cameron claim Halloween as a Christian event in an auditorium filled with Liberty University students who have been totally raised to believe it's of Satan via their churchs, school founders, teaching staff and Professor Chick-Tract.
Not a murmur or discouraging word could be heard.
"Two people say they're Jesus,
One of them must be wrong"
That's because biblical creationists reject any evidence that conflicts with their ancient book of mythology.
Biblical creationists never have to admit they're wrong or change their mind because they are so closed-minded.They start with the premise that their holy babble is true no matter what, and reject everything that says it isn't.
Just look at AIG's "Statement of Faith":
"By definition, no apparent, perceived or claimed evidence in any field, including history and chronology, can be valid if it contradicts the scriptural record. Of primary importance is the fact that evidence is always subject to interpretation by fallible people who do not possess all information."
Never mind that their holy babble is "always subject to interpretation by fallible people who do not possess all information"; just go to any two churches, even those within the same denomination, to see exactly how "subject to interpretation" their book of mythology is.
Science constantly updates what we know as new evidence is uncovered. When can we expect the updates to your bible? Or are you claiming we haven't learned anything new since the bible was written?
Confused?
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