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"God created logic, and all of God's creation points to Him (Psalm 19). It is morally repugnant and intellectually dishonest for the atheist to use logic and rationality without confessing a belief in a transcendent power, namely the Trinitarian God of Scripture, from whom all truth, morality and rationality flows."

SemperReformanda, bibleforums.net 51 Comments [2/24/2008 10:33:50 PM]
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Submitted By: Louis C
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Vampirehummingbird

We (science) created logic, but you say we can't use it?

That's some weak god you're trying to protect.

2/24/2008 10:39:06 PM

Detrs

Empty assertions. You don't bother to explain how such things can be.

Let me know if you're actually going to try and say something intelligent.

2/24/2008 10:39:19 PM

Slereah

He did a pretty bad job then, with all those formally undecidable theorems.

2/24/2008 10:52:59 PM

Vampirehummingbird

If god created logic, why didn't he share it with fundies?

2/24/2008 10:58:13 PM

Darth Wang

Circular reasoning. "God created logic, therefore logic proves God"

2/24/2008 11:07:54 PM

POSW

"God created logic, so you can't use logic if you don't believe in him!"

Facepalm and headdesk at the same time.

2/24/2008 11:08:26 PM

Classic

Actually, I profess that the predictive nature of the universe is caused because it is the product of many little gods working to keep the universe stable and predictable under the direction of a holy trinity responsible for its creation, maintenance, and final recycling. A system that cycles indefinitely and predictively seems to be a lot more sound system to apply the the fundamental principles of logic and reason to than a lone and finite universe created by a lone omnipresence responsible not only for the birth, but death of that universe.

What all of that rigamarole means, you can't use logic because you don't affirm the existence of Brahman, the world-sea, whose fundamental properties guarantee the predictability of the universe.

At least, I think that's a response to the interesting argument you're fucking up.

2/24/2008 11:23:50 PM

Horsefeathers

"God created logic, and all of God's creation points to Him (Psalm 19). It is morally repugnant and intellectually dishonest for the atheist to use logic and rationality without confessing a belief in a transcendent power, namely the Trinitarian God of Scripture, from whom all truth, morality and rationality flows."

Says you. Now prove it.

2/24/2008 11:28:11 PM

FMG

Logically speaking a sky wizard decided to make a planet so that he can have his ego massaged repeatedly by lesser beings who he threatens to destroy should they not massage his ego?

Riiiiggght.
Someone needs to look up the word "logic".

2/24/2008 11:29:32 PM

approximate

Failure to prove the existence of your god and instead, quoting your book of fairy tales, invalidates your entire argument.

2/24/2008 11:30:50 PM

Blackvoice


Logic, motherfucker, do you speak it?!

2/24/2008 11:34:37 PM

Osiris

If that's the case then why does so much of Christianity have to do with faith and group mob mentality as opposed to logic and reason?

2/24/2008 11:35:39 PM

Old Viking

If you say so, Semp.

2/24/2008 11:56:40 PM

Tenebrais

Actually, logic at its core level would have evolved in small creatures which needed to deduce things like "if it's heavy and/or fast and/or sharp it can probably kill me".

The rest just built on that.

2/25/2008 12:00:25 AM

John

God created logic

WTF? "If a is b, and b is c, then a is c" wouldn't be true except for God? "If all a's are b's, and c is an a, then c is a b" wouldn't be true except for God? Besides, why couldn't the Flying Spaghetti Monster have created logic?

2/25/2008 12:28:59 AM

Ken1971

@ POSW:

Oooh, careful. You OK?

2/25/2008 12:34:07 AM

Doctor Whom

Hank created logic, and all of Hank's creation points to Him (Hank's letter dictated to Karl). It is morally repugnant and intellectually dishonest for the non-Hank-ass-kisser to use logic and rationality without confessing a belief in a transcendent power, namely Hank as revealed in the letter that He dictated to Karl, from whom all truth, morality and rationality flows.

2/25/2008 12:44:01 AM

cyborgtroy

God created logic, therefore using logic proves God's existence.

Did God create circular logic or did that only exist after the Fall???

2/25/2008 12:48:27 AM

Caustic Gnostic

Monad does it for me, or Brahman or Gitche Manitou. Same concept.

The false god Yahweh is not, does not, and can not. He's an incomplete loser, plain and simple.

Nyaaaah!

2/25/2008 12:56:17 AM

Julian

Something's flowing alright.

Please forgive us if we fail to fall to our knees and worship your great and almight sphincter...

2/25/2008 1:24:56 AM

solomongrundy

Er, the 'Trinitarian God of Scripture'?

There ain't no such animal: the Trinity was invented by the Council of Nicaea in the fourth century AD. There's no mention of it in either the Old or New Testaments.

2/25/2008 1:30:20 AM

Sandman

So this guy is saying that you are not allowed to use logic and reason unless you "confess" that logic and reason are the creation of a supernatural being that defies logic and reason?

I just gave myself a headache.

2/25/2008 1:48:53 AM

Papabear

It is morally repugnant and intellectually dishonest for one so ignorant to pontificate on others uses of logic, rationality and perceptions of truth.

2/25/2008 1:58:54 AM

antichrist

So your god is all powerful and all knowing.

But he's so shallow that if anyone uses their "God given" brain, he gets his nose out of joint?

BTW Do you believe in one god? Or 3?

2/25/2008 2:08:47 AM

Mister Spak

Then why do you fundies butcher logic every time you put your fingers on a keyboard?

2/25/2008 2:42:17 AM
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