[In response to asking how genes 'know' what to do and being told "Physics, more specifically chemistry, even more specifically biochemistry. In other words, it's just the way matter works."]
Just curious though....what makes you think genes aren't broken down into millions of sub-parts....and how do all the sub-parts know what to do?...what makes them all stick together to form a gene?...what if some of them don't care to play along?.....do these subparts make their own decisions too? In fact, you could just keep getting smaller and smaller and smaller unil the physical completely disappears, yet the wave (or field, or whatever's left) still somehow knows what to do.
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We used to think that the Atom was as small as it got, and before that, the Atom was just a "theory" of some bearded Greek dudes (Atheists all by the way)
Then we discovered electrons and protons and then neutrons and then quarks, now there's at least 24 sub atomic particles that make up an Atom.
But hey, that's all theory and conjecture and shit.
Genes are made up of DNA, short for deoxyribonucleic acid.
DNA is made up of a long chain of nucleotides, which have have these chemical structures:
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Every sequence of three nucleotides in the DNA, called a codon, either codes for an amino acid or a start/stop. The entire length of DNA from start to stop is called a gene, and the entire sequence of amino acids from start to stop gives a very specific protein.
LabRat: I've become convinced that Stupidsport's brain silently left him sometime in the spring of 1987, while he was asleep, and replaced itself with tapioca pudding. Unfortunately, Stupidsport has not yet noticed this.
Come to think of it, how does matter always which way is down in order to fall it?
Law of physics? Matter just works that way?
Hah! No, clearly saying things fall down is implying that matter is obviously intelligent enough to move in the right direction. *cough*
So why, *gag* doesn't some matter get it wrong now *cough* *choke* and again *splutter* and fall the wrong way, huh?
Answer that mister *hack* *cough* fancy-pants *hack* *hack* scient... *gag* scient... *gag*
(Excuse me a moment. *HAACCCKKKK* *spit* Some straw caught in my throat.)
chemical reactions.
Seriously do you think if I mix two chemicals together, they "think" about how they're going to react with each other?
And if your talking about string theory (kind of sounds like it, but not sure). Then a whole new set of rules apply, but strings don't think. You really believe that your heart "thinks"?
I know it's a hard concept to grasp, but our brains are nothing but chemical and electrical reactions.
Yeah, when I'm boiling water in a pot, how does the water "know" when it's hit 100 degrees Celsius? And once it knows that, how does it know it's supposed to turn into steam? How does it know HOW to turn into steam? The fact that most of the water stays water when it boils indicates that most of the water doesn't know how to turn into steam. So how does it learn?
"Matter does intelligent things for no reason"
Like a computer... Oh fuck... Same thing.
"if this is the religion that helps you guys sleep at night, then more power to you."
Yes, my computer helps me sleep at night.
It's a lot like a computer, the bonds of the molecules that make up our body are switches and recievers and somesuch... any smart person should see where I'm goin with this, the words are just lost to me.
Damn you cyborgtroy! You took my arguement from me.
Don't go down that road, the inevitable conclusion is that intelligence, or the appearance thereof, is actually just the complex interactions of a lot of different molecules/atoms/waves/however far down you want to go. That leads pretty quickly to hard determinism and the conclusion that consciousness is an illusion and you are nothing more than an automaton. Do you really want to start that argument?
Hey, Supersport, how do all the sub-parts of a bicycle know what to do? What makes them all stick together to form a bike? What if some of the nuts and/or bolts don't care to play along? Do these subparts make their own decisions too?
"Yeah, when I'm boiling water in a pot, how does the water "know" when it's hit 100 degrees Celsius? And once it knows that, how does it know it's supposed to turn into steam? How does it know HOW to turn into steam? The fact that most of the water stays water when it boils indicates that most of the water doesn't know how to turn into steam. So how does it learn?" quote by Patches
It is rather obvious. Tiny thermometers, tiny watches and excellent choreography. I have heard Paula Abdul works with them on occasion.
Some atoms are het, some atoms are gay, some atoms are bi. It is their NATURE. Where is your difficulty understanding this, Stuporspurt?
"oh, well that explains it. Right....it's just the way it is. Matter does intelligent things for no reason"
Yahuh.
"if this is the religion that helps you guys sleep at night, then more power to you"
It's not a religion, but listening to preachers does send me to sleep.
"and how do all the sub-parts know what to do?"
Deductive Reasoning.
"what makes them all stick together to form a gene?"
Superglue, duct tape, dried seaweed and snot.
"what if some of them don't care to play along?"
They go and sulk in the corner because no one wants to be their friend.
"do these subparts make their own decisions too?"
No, they have clergy and elected officials to do their thinking for them. A lot like you really.
No. NO. This... it breaks my mind. Not even Supersport can be so fucking ignorant as to not even be able to look this up. That he can be completely ignorant of evolution, yes. That he can be so pigheaded as to spout his bullshit on multiple boards, of course. But to seriously sit there and deny that he even is aware of the existence of concepts like nucleotides... and chromosomes... and fucking molecular bonds... No. I refuse to believe that this is possible.
"what if some of them don't care to play along?" Cancer.
And where did God come from, what keeps him together, how does he make decisions? Oh, he just does intelligent things for no reason?
If this is the religion that helps this guy sleep at night, less power to him... please!
If it can't be explained to an imbecile in five seconds, it's not worth knowing?
Maybe that's what "irreducible complexity" means...
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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