[In response to the question " How would you react if your god was irrefutably proven not to exist?"]
I no longer have to worry about that since science can now prove that the God Yahweh exists. The same can't be said about all other gods.
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If you're talking about this, it is just a mass of cold, illuminated gas, and it is not watching you.
I love how fundies, at least in my experience, **ALWAYS** dodge that particular type of hypothetical question. They absolutely, categorically refuse to even try to seriously entertain the notion of God being nonexistent; it apparently must scare them spitless to even try.
Their arrogance of certainty that God exists (and it's always their God, of course, in their own individual personal interpretation of him, who coincidentally agrees with their own views on everything -- funny, that) is nothing but bravado, whistling in the dark whilst walking past the graveyard. It isn't really that they need to convince everyone else that god exists; it's that they need to convince themselves , loudly and continuously, to keep away the nightmarish notion that maybe, just maybe, they are wrong, and that they don't have an inside track with an all-powerful being who will keep them alive in paradise for eternity and spend just as long viciously punishing all the people they don't like.
The very concept that they are not special, that they have no more control over the universe than anyone else, and that they really will someday die and be gone forever, is just too terrifying a thought for them to consider. So they just deflect it with whatever BS they can think of and act as if they have somehow done something clever, when all they have really done is show how terribly desperate they are to cling to their delusion. Pitiful.
~David D.G.
Based on many observations gathered from this site, I can only conclude that the average fundamentalist either has a mental capacity that is simply inadequate for such abstract, intellectual exercises as hypothetical questions, or has been trained (or trained themselves) never even to begin to consider hypothetical scenarios in which their delusion might be false, possibly from an unconscious or not-so-unconscious awareness of just how flimsy their whole world view really is.
Edit: Dammit, David DG beats me by seconds, and with pretty much identical thought patterns.
I think Aristotle was the first to acknowledge that science and religion don't mix.
Science proves the universe exists, but there is still no way of measuring imaginary playmates.
The clueless one does not know what science is...please don't use the S word in vain, mkay?.
Science has never attempted to prove or disprove the existence of God. That lies outside the scope of science. Aquinas offered five "proofs", which no one has improved upon:
1) The "design argument" - the universe must have been designed.
2) The "cosmological argument" - Everything has a cause; therefore, there must have been a first cause.
3) The argument from religious experience - miracles prove the existence of God
4) The "moral argument" - human moral judgment must have had an external source.
5) The "ontological argument" - if God is perfect, then He must have the additional perfection of existence.
Theologians usually only rely on (3) and (4) nowadays. Amateurs like Kent Hovind and Ken Ham continue to press for (1), but it doesn't lead to anything like the Christian God. Neither does (2). The Logical Positivists proved (5) was invalid around the turn of the 20th century.
Aquinas himself said people of faith don't need proofs.
Of course! When the Large Hadron Collider goes on line, scientists will be able to detect God particles, each indelibly stamped with "Genuine GOD particle © Yahweh. If found, please contact THE LORD, your GOD, via prayer, and a service cherubim will be dispatched to retrieve this particle. No user serviceable parts."
Actually, no. But it's just as ridiculous as your blathering.
Philosophy is a root of science, but science and philosophy are very different things.
By making someone think of [name deity here], you have proved its existence (at least in your own head), but that doesn't make it true.
Thats the thing with philosophy, many arguements cannot be argued against, that does not make them true.
Wow. So why hasn't any scientist published this proof? I know peer review is a bitch, but if the proof is irrefutable, there'd be no reason *not* to publish. Unless all us evil godless scientists were conspiring (DUN DUN DUNNNNNN!!!!!!!!) against the religious establishment!
Ever noticed how frequently fundies accuse scientists of some sort of conspiracy?
A month ago this same winner asked the question:
"Who's ancestors were the people that the God Yahweh drowned in Noah's flood? Hebrews?Jews? Muslims? Other?"
As others have stated, the stupid is strong with this one.
Yeah! Except, no. Sorry, this is reality. Science can't prove things that are either imaginary or unobservable.
@quantumbrewer:
IT'S THE EYE OF SAURON! WE'RE ALL DOOMED! *snicker*
@John: So THAT'S where that idiot Troy Brooks stole his BS from! Spammy little sonofa...
Recently, I asked soms fundies whether they ever considered that the bible might be wrong.
Guess what, they became abusive.
Yeah but just last week they proved that the Aztec gods were all real, what about that?
I can make random unfounded statements too.
Science = the study of the natural world.
"A god", unspecified = supernatural.
It's that simple. You are full of baloney.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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