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Show me the evidence, I do not need 211,390 articles, all I need is one undoctored real life video showing one kind of animal changing into another. Or giving birth to another, like a human giving birth to a lizard or bird .... wow, with al those articles if evolution is true, surely one of those "MEDICAL" doctors witnessed a human giving birth to some other creature?

Christian, askville 100 Comments [2/28/2008 7:43:20 PM]
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Eileen

I'm sick of these strongman arguments....

2/29/2008 12:44:23 AM

POSW

If he really believes this, he's dumber than the strawmen he creates.

2/29/2008 12:54:45 AM

tracer

And did we forget to mention, EVOLUTION DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY!

2/29/2008 1:44:29 AM

LOLKILLZ

The only possible response is one probably already posted a dozen times...

EVOLUTION DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY!

2/29/2008 1:51:21 AM

Mike

Evolution does not work that way!

2/29/2008 2:07:18 AM

Aethernaut

That's not the way evolution works you dipshit. For christsake pick up a book at some point in your sad little narrow-minded life.

2/29/2008 2:36:47 AM

Seamus D

Obviously, "Christian" wouldn't know what evidence looked like if it jumped up and bit him on his precious crucifix.

"Christian" was patiently and thoroughly schooled in that thread by someone called "lucaspa." It's quite interesting and sad to read, interesting because "lucaspa" obviously knows what he's talking about, and sad because "Christian" and the other fundies there simply refuse to use any recognizable form of reason in their answers. Finally, at the end of the page is a link to this laugh fest.

2/29/2008 3:06:31 AM

NJ Osprey

...surely one of those "MEDICAL" doctors witnessed a human giving birth to some other creature?

Well, did anyone videotape Christian's birth?

2/29/2008 6:27:12 AM

Jake Steel

Mules you jackass.

2/29/2008 7:23:00 AM

Mattural Selection

He says "show me the evidence" then when you show him the evidence he says "that's not evidence".

You could show him a shoe and he'll say "that's not a shoe, it's just something you put your foot in".

2/29/2008 7:23:57 AM

Nutz

I'm just satisfied that they finally admitted that they have no understanding of evolution and want some sort of ridiculous magical evidence to support it. Look, if a creature randomly gave birth to a completely different creature then millions of years wouldn;t be necessary!

2/29/2008 11:48:15 AM

Fausttt

honeysuckle maggot - hybridization of 2 fruit eating maggot species in order to accomodate a new introduced species of plant neither were equipped to eat. ~200 years (estimated since the plant has only existed in americas for ~200 years

samurai crabs - human assisted evolution. crabs of the same species existed in waters off japan. but because local fisherman found it to be bad luck to eat the ones whose shells looked like samurai masks, they threw them back allowing them to breed more and now a bulk of the crabs from that species have the samurai mask markings. effectively creating a new species of crab. (some argue this one but its just a small example)

mules - hybrid of horse and donkey, even with different number of chromosome pairs they manage to occasionally produce fertile mules. very rare but if this becomes more common and this trait is allowed to proliferate, it will be come a self-sufficient wholly new species.

fruit flies- genetic variations have been tracked to different climates. due to their quick lifespan and numerous generations per year, they are showing the first stages of genetic diversification based on a ecological change. stay tuned for further genetic variation and inevitible survival/exctintion of the successful/failes species until they evolve into completely different species.

man - skeletal structures, brain size and composition, immunilogical changes have all been documented as recent as 100 years and varying over different geographical zones. in extreme cases you could look at pygmies. in a million years christians will be arguing there is no way those fossilized pygmy skeletons are related to the other human skeletons. they just look too different!

dont get me started on bacterial/viral evolution. basically EVERY strain is effectively a different genetic makeup and since new strains appear all the time (some with dramatic changes in makeup) they are probably the most closely watched organisms to understand evolution. i.e -

Cholera - it used to strike a victim down relatively quickly in areas with poor water supply or centralized water supplies. this was effective because the person could reinfect the water sources for transmission of the disease. as people developed better water systems and less centralized, the disease evolved to a less virulent form to expand its chances of infecting a viable water source.

there are many more so i could go on for a while but consider many species of moths, whales with vestigial "hand bones", many plant species, anything humans selectively bred (even if we helped it it is still a form of evolution) from better crops to custom labradoodles.

this should be a decent list to springboard your education into real evolution.






2/29/2008 12:37:24 PM

NonProphet

I read that thread. "Christian" was thoroughly beaten about the head and shoulders with facts, but kept shouting how evolution isn't evolution, evidence isn't evidence, no fossils exist anywhere, and that evolution can't be true because it doesn't explain the beginning of the universe. >.<

I now have a series of keyboard-shaped impressions on my forehead.

2/29/2008 2:30:37 PM

Satan

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2/29/2008 2:57:46 PM

Poisoned Rationality

Heh. Why bother? Even if that's the way evolution worked, you wouldn't believe the video anyway. You'd pronounce it doctored and continue wandering around with blinders on and your fingers in your ears.

2/29/2008 3:18:39 PM

szena

I wish that just once a creationist would stop to ask himself why preachers need to lie about evolution to get their followers to reject it.

2/29/2008 3:32:06 PM

Blayze Kohime

That one practically writes its own reply.

2/29/2008 6:03:31 PM

nfp

@Nameless:

Point taken. I would then like to offer this brainwashed fool my deprogramming services--a little something I like to call the "Sledgehammer Method."

2/29/2008 8:07:10 PM

484

GAAAH!

2/29/2008 8:19:54 PM



An animal giving birth to another?

well for the most part evolution doesn't work that way, but there are exceptions:-

Liger
Tigon
Tiguar
Wolphin
Mule
Cama

2/29/2008 9:57:58 PM

HeathenAngel

Evolution does not work that way one millionthed.

2/29/2008 11:21:34 PM

Neil

Well, your mother gave birth to an 8-pound piece of shit. Doesn't that count for something?

3/1/2008 1:09:40 AM

Chamale

You're a human, but you created a strawman. From animal to plant in 1 generation, that's pretty impressive.

3/1/2008 3:12:18 AM

Fishcakes

Evolution. GRADUAL PROCESS. OVER MILLIONS OF YEARS. NOT IMMEDIATE.

3/1/2008 9:29:10 PM

John_in_Oz

"all I need is one undoctored real life video showing one kind of animal changing into another."
Okay, here's a caterpiller turning into a butterfly: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rS1A34hfHPM
Now confess you're a lying piece of shit.

3/3/2008 12:33:24 PM
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