it would take alot more faith to believe in evolution then in Creation. Cause I mean we have this best seller book that says creation is true. and only a couple of books that claim evolution is true.
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I don't consider the Bible a best seller because most people that buy one don't actually read it cover to cover. If they did, there would be fewer who followed it literally I think (or hope).
I don't think this is a troll. I personally made that same argument when I was a Christian and was quite serious about it.
"MochaJunkie, I agree with your reasoning.
Harry Potter is another best-seller, translated into over 50 languages and over 300 million copies sold world-wide.
This totally backs my unwavering belief in flying broomsticks, dragons, and magic spells."
"ty! someone understands what i was trying to say!
((i like harry potter but i dont believe in that stuff! its just an interesting book..))"
"it would take alot more faith to believe in evolution then in Creation."
Uh, yeah. I don't think so. See, there's this really cool stuff called "evidence" that people called "scientists" have that they can use to show evolution works just like they say it does. Not only that, evolution happens whether or not anyone believes in it.
"Cause I mean we have this best seller book that says creation is true. and only a couple of books that claim evolution is true."
Try a real bookstore, not your local Christian bookstore that only sells propaganda. Hell, even a library would have many books on the subject written by people well qualified to do so, unlike your Christian bookstore where they have economists, engineers and people with shady credentials writing about how evolution isn't possible.
I'm going to base my life solely off of best sellers.
The DaVinci Code seems to be the starting point, you see, there's a guy who died on a museum floor and he provided a clue to a secret message which provided another clue and so on. It book says so, so this code must be true, and it IS a best seller after all.
So the Da Vinci Code wins by vox populi?
Evolution requires less faith, because faith insists on what it hopes to be true no matter what challenges are set before it. Evolution incorporates those new impediments into a model that accomodates them.
Yes, Vox Populi (had to look it up) seems to be the argument for a Christian society in America today: "most people follow that faith so it must be true!"
That and scientists have no problem with being proven wrong, or challenges or real debate or criticism. Christians have a problem with all of that because being proven wrong means that they spent years or decades being wrong. Can't have that now can they? Science doesn't mind, Copernicus (Earth revolves around Sun) was crazy at first, but results ultimately prevailed.
Following your logic, we should throw ourselves into the arms of the first guy who is attractive to us, judging at the fact that romantic novels are bestsellers too. And anyway, what's "faith" then?, a matter of selling?. In that case, the rapture would be false. Only a crappy collection of books which glorify that nonsense.
So truth is based on best selling books?
OMG Harry Potter is real! It's a best selling book!
All the stuff Stephen King wrote about - real, he's a best seller!
Wasn't "A Brief History of Time" a best seller? Doesn't that make Stephen Hawkings right?
Science books don't tend to be best sellers because they are dry and not something your average commuter pulls out to read on the train.
To quote Orwell "sanity is not statistical"
Just because you have the numbers, doesn't mean you are any more true.
Richard Dawkins' The Selfish Gene , The Blind Watchmaker et al.
Steven Pinker's How The Mind Works
Darwin's Origin of Species
Matt Ridley's Genome and The Red Queen
John Maynard Smith's The Theory Of Evolution
That's more that just a couple, isn't it?
Actually no, there is only one evolution with minor variations in theory, with fossil, geological, and biological proofs. There are over 200 different creation stories associated with different various religions and cultures, each requiring a different leap of faith without a single shred of scientific proof. Yours is simply one of the many out there.
Dianetics is a best-seller, too. AND it's been translated into a jillion languages. And it has celebrity shills!
This kind of logic enturbulates my Thetan.
I wish I was a monster that fed off stupidity, I'd be set for life.
We actually have those. They are called pastors.
Oh, I see. I think I'll base my life around The Firm, then. I mean, I'm not a lawyer, but there must be some mafia I can steal from anyway, right? And hopefully expose them in the process, so that when I lay in Cayman Brac drinking ruhm I don't have to fear about random people jumping out of the trees and blowing my brains off.
Yes, we do outnumber you.
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Not to mention Francis Collin's The Language of God: A Scientist Presents Evidence for Belief which states that the universe was definitely created and God does take a hand in our daily life, but refuting evolution in the face of the evidence is simply insane.
One, the books on evolution, which are more than two, are best sellers in universities and academic environment. And following your logic, we should believe Jesus was married(Da Vinci Code is a best-seller)
When somebody says they 'believe' in evolution, they are not using the word in the same sense that you do.
They mean that on the basis of the evidence they have formed the judgement that the theory is a true description of reality. You will note that in fact there is NO 'Faith' there.
It takes NO faith to 'believe' in Evolution.
To suggest that the truth of a story should be judged on the number of books about it is propose a way to be absolutely wrong on every issue.
and only a couple of books that claim evolution is true.
Last time I checked a couple was more than one.
Also, evolution has an overwhelming amount of evidence to back it up, the bible dosen't.
The bible has supposedly sold up to a total of 6 billion copies (all versions combined, and there are lots of them). Harry Potter books have sold about 400 million copies (all versions and there are lots of them).
Harry potter books have only been around for 10 years. The Bible has been around for about a hundred times that long.
Pretty shit statistics for the bible eh!
Should also mention that I have 3 Bibles that have been gifts! So me, an atheist owns 3 copies of the Bible!
The gift thing dilutes the significance of the sales quite a bit I imagine!
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