(Someone mentions the Crusades were a time when religion was wrong.)
Whether you know it or not, it has done much more good than it has done bad. Don't let your blind hate for religion cloud that. Something doesn't have be necessarily "true" in order to do good. I hate this kind of ignorance.
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Whether you know it or not, it has done much more good than it has done bad.
Don't let your blind hate for religion cloud that.
Something doesn't have be necessarily "true" in order to do good.
I hate this kind of ignorance.
Actually, the Crusades were more about looting and pillaging, than about actual religion, much like modern televangelism and megachurches.
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Well, it decreased the overcrowding in Western Europe and gave its knights someone to fight besides themselves.
'Course, it killed countless thousands, so I'm wondering what your perspective on 'good' is...
Yes, thousands dead and centuries if mistrust and hatred later we can certainly say the crusades did some good things...like introduce paprica to western cooking.
Definitely sounds worthwhile right there.
I suppose one could find positive apsects of the crusades.
I can think of positive consequences of World War 2 and the holocaust:
Of course that still doesn't mean that WW2 and the Holocaust weren't wrong or that the positives outweigh the negatives.. like those millions of genocide victims.
Whether you know it or not, it has done much more good than it has done bad.
The Childrens Crusade got rid of all those pesky kids for example and setting up a deep and bitter hatred for Christianity and the west in general that lasts even to this day was a stroke of pure genius!
Don't let your blind hate for religion cloud that.
Let history do it for you!
Something doesn't have be necessarily "true" in order to do good
So lie for Jesus whenever you get the chance.
I hate this kind of ignorance.
Pot, meet Kettle.
booley wrote:
"I can think of positive consequences of World War 2 and the holocaust: If you include all of WW2, and not just the Holocaust parts, you end up with a lot more positive consequences, like:
* Jet aircraft
Yep, threaten to kill someone if they don't accept baptism.
If they accept baptism, kill them immediately afterwards so they go to heaven pure.
Of course they left you all their worldly possessions.
The first sentence of this post may actually be partially correct - I suspect religion was a very important force for causing pre-rational people to coalesce into somewhat functional societies, with all the economies of scale and strength in numbers that entails. This would be essential because only in a post-subsistence, reasonably stable society does any kind of intellectualism stand a chance of getting established and forming the starting point for the rise of rationality.
However, if religion was important as a first step to where we are now, it is now equally if not more important that we abandon it as soon as possible; the damage and insanity it causes have long since outweighed any of the socially unifying benefits it may have given, which are no longer needed. Now we've reached a state of rationality it can stand up by itself, and the remnants of its crude scaffolding are just a drag factor.
Good to whom?, to the poor muslims and Jewish, and Christians living there, for that matter, NOPE. And of course, redefining "truth" as usual.
I suppose you could say by coming into contact with the Muslims, and thus quickening the transfer of the bubonic plague to Europe, and thus killing 1/3rd it's population, and thus making people question religion and cause the Protestant Reformation isn't going to help them... yeah, it did a lot of good. Now all the dumbasses are evangelicals instead of catholics.
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Esjeur:
Some people already do.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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