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Intelligent Design theorem is plainly obvious (unlike evolution), it can be easily found just by looking at the world around you. This quote by the Discovery Institute explains it well “certain features of the universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause, not an undirected process such as natural selection.”

I answered your question, now you answer my question, how can evolution even be considered science in any meaning of the word?

Alien Syndrome, Fark.com 34 Comments [3/9/2008 7:34:25 PM]
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Dewey

Not until you can demonstrate that you actually know and understand any of those meanings. Until then, explaining the scientific nature of the theory of evolution to you would just be a waste of breath.

3/9/2008 7:40:48 PM

Patches

Life "looks" designed in the same way the sun "looks" like it goes around the earth.

3/9/2008 7:43:51 PM

Osiris

No let's go back to you for a second. You're argument is basically; it looks like things were designed. Well it also looks like the sun goes around the Earth. But it doesn't.

3/9/2008 7:49:36 PM

approximate

Explaining evolution to a retard like you is like explaining nuclear physics to Homer Simpson...an utter waste of anyone's time.

3/9/2008 7:49:37 PM

Brain_In_A_Jar

not an undirected process such as natural selection.

Choice of weasel words is critical here. Natural selection doesn't have a conscious goal or direction, but it still has a structured mechanism. Undirected, in this case, != random.

3/9/2008 8:09:11 PM

Blackvoice

I first read that as Fart.com and I tought "Wow, how fitting."

3/9/2008 8:22:23 PM

Grand Archblasphemer of York

So, if I am reading this right, you are asserting that Intelligent Design must be true because it is intuitive and "obvious" (at least to people who very much want to find a reason to believe that Earth was crafted on a divine forge), but that evolution is wrong because it is not obvious or intuitive in the same fashion.

I don't think that simplicity is a requirement of a science, in any meaning of the word. So...what were you saying again?

3/9/2008 8:29:00 PM

logicprevails

"best explained"? you mean 'easiest way of explaining'. It's too much trouble to learn and question and develop a sense of reasoning for yourself, why not just take third hand accounts of various myths and parables at face value?

Your quote doesn't offer any proof. 'Looks like' does not constitute scientific evidence

3/9/2008 8:34:00 PM



Let me see. Snakes don't speak, evolution doesn't work that way, science doesn't work that way, things are what they are, not what, a priory, they look that they are............

3/9/2008 8:34:53 PM

HeathenAngel

"certain features of the universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause, not an undirected process such as natural selection."

If this is PLANNED and DESIGNED.. then your god should be thrown out on his "all powerful ass" Who the hell puts a breathing tube right next to an eating tube? No "intelligent" designer would do that. And that's but ONE of the myriad screw ups with the human body.

3/9/2008 9:07:22 PM

Fanatic-Templar

Well, that quote explains... absolutely nothing. It just expresses an opinion.

3/9/2008 9:35:48 PM

Nowonmai

Intelligent design? You going to try to tell me that having a seed almost half its volume, was a smart design? Or a bird laying an egg that is 1/4 it's size, often killing the hen who lays it is 'intelligent design'? Dubya is an 'intelligent design'?

That last one alone disproves your 'intelligent design' aka Creationism in disguise.

3/9/2008 9:47:38 PM

Horsefeathers

"Intelligent Design theorem is plainly obvious (unlike evolution), [...]"

Given up on biology and moved into mathematics now, have you? Scientists in biology and other physical sciences use theories, mathematicians use theorems. You'll pardon me if I take nothing else you have to say seriously.

"it can be easily found just by looking at the world around you."

Fine. Do so. Pointing to something and saying, "that's complex; therefor it was designed!" is not showing such evidence. Pointing to something and saying that does nothing other than show something is "complex", not that it was designed.

"This quote by the Discovery Institute explains it well “certain features of the universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause, not an undirected process such as natural selection."

Which ones and why is it so?

"I answered your question, now you answer my question, how can evolution even be considered science in any meaning of the word?"

Because it fits the standard and accepted definition of the word "science", unlike Intelligent Design/Creationism/Goddidit.

3/9/2008 10:16:01 PM

Freboy

Pull a card from a deck. Every possible outcome is very unlikely. It can't be chance can it?

3/9/2008 10:39:56 PM



Let me get this straight. First, one must deny reality. Then, one must deny independent evidence of reality. Then, all the denied reality is replaced with a hypothetical super-being.

The part I'm missing is; at what point does one scoop out one's brain with a melon baller?

3/9/2008 11:07:37 PM

antichrist

Just because you give your people sciency sounding names, doesn't make them scientists.

The Discovery Institute is nothing but a bullshit bakery, where a bunch of guys sit around figuring how much of their bullshit you people will buy.

And you pay for it through all the money you give to your church. Much better than giving it to the poor.

3/9/2008 11:37:53 PM

cui bono

a quote is proof of nothing but the quote itself.



fundamentalists delenda est

3/10/2008 12:19:21 AM

Goosey

"Do you not see? Ahhhh!"

3/10/2008 12:41:42 AM



I think the webcomic I Drew This said it best with this comic:

http://www.idrewthis.org/d/20050204.html

3/10/2008 12:43:43 AM

Mayhem

Tell god that he should have created my digestive system to absorb all elemants of food. Because, you know, the whole "peeing and pooping" thing is really repulsive.

3/10/2008 1:20:16 AM

Mister Spak

Evolution has evidence which is published in papers. Creationism has hot air. Next question.

3/10/2008 1:29:48 AM

Old Viking

The world is keenly attuned to the pronouncements of the Discovery Institute.

3/10/2008 1:33:12 AM

Caustic Gnostic

Science begins with evidence and proceeds toward an explanation.

ID begins with a fairytale and requires political intervention to proceed anywhere.

3/10/2008 2:07:01 AM

Blayze Kohime

The best way to confuse people like this is to try to explain how evolution does not rule out intelligent design.

But don't take my word for it, take the Pope's word for it: http://www.blacksunjournal.com/religion/889_pope-acquiesces-to-evolution-climate-change_2007.html

That is known as a 'citation'. They should look into it.

3/10/2008 11:37:07 AM

Canadiest

They think this is a plea to logic, that an all-powerful being makes more sense than the natural forces of the universe creating these Earth like planets ( of which we know of one)

Evolution is something that stands up toscientific scrutiny but they can tell different by just looking. Such a lot of fuss over not being that special creature with the spark of divinity.

3/10/2008 11:58:35 AM
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