aphiz17 #fundie

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Atheists need to realize that morality doesn't coincide with the concept of 'survival of the fittest,' and if I'm a product of the latter, I'll live my life according to that principle because that's what's natural. If I truly believed in atheism and all of its implications, I would admire Hitler more than I would Gandhi.

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old comment by Angua

Most atheists would not claim that "survival of the fittest" is a moral value. And I'd argue that you don't really understand what "survival of the fittest" is either. (As far as survival goes: Gandhi succeeded. India gained its independence and is a functioning democracy. Hitler didn't. Nazi Germany failed. That's not what makes Gandhi morally right and Hitler morally wrong. It just shows that you're wrong from the very start.)

And who cares what's natural? It's not the atheists who are the ones saying that you should do things because they're "natural." You'd having an easier time finding a theist who'd say that homosexuality or birth control or condoms or whatnot is wrong because it's "not natural" (even if it is natural in some cases) than you would finding an atheist calling something wrong because it "wasn't natural."

Besides, I wouldn't say I belief in atheism. That's like saying "I belief in a lack of belief in God." I do. (There are people who don't belief in gods, even you would have to "belief in atheism" to that extent.) I'd just simply say I don't belief in God. It's simpler and more to the point.

Besides, the fact that I don't believe in God doesn't mean I can't belief in other things, like morality.

old comment by Anon-e-moose

"If I truly believed in atheism and all of its implications, I would admire Hitler more than I would Gandhi."

(emphasis added):

'I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.'

-Mohandas K. 'Mahatma' Gandhi

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'I believe today that I am acting in the sense of the Almighty Creator. By warding off the Jews I am fighting for the Lord's work.'

-Adolf Hitler

You said it, I didn't.

PROTIP: One of the books banned, nay, burned in Hitler's Third Reich? "On the Origin of Species" by Charles Darwin.

Destroyed argument much, aphiz17?

@Anon2

"Hitler's "Thousand year Reich" doesn't exist anymore.

Ghandhi's independent India does still exist.

Survival of the fittest."

Two words: Jewish Diaspora. One of which was a survivor of the Nazis' ultimate death factory, Auschwitz, whom I had the privilege to meet and talk with, some years ago. Kinda annihilates Hitler's 'Untermensch/Ubermensch' theories, eh? And that's before I mention Jesse Owens at the 1936 Berlin Olympics. Speaking of which...

I reckon the hottest tickets at the 2012 London Olympics, will be those for the Mens 100 metres. I'd bet the £185 I have in my wallet right now, that we'll see Jamaica's Usain Bolt there, at that particular event next year; but even before then...:

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I suspect we're already seeing the emergence of Homo Superior.

Q: Why is Usain Bolt employed at CERN in Geneva?

A: He's the pacemaker for the Large Hadron Collider. X3

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