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#433118
Horsefeathers
"The most famous adherents of evolution have never truly believed in it themselves."
Bullshit.
"Arthur Keith admitted that the theory is only kept going because it rejects fossil evidence that negates it. Richard Leakey stated outright that human evolution had been disproved by the discovery of a 3 million year old human skull from Africa."
Cite your source for this. I'd be especially interested to know which of the world's great museums has the privilege of having a three million year old human (I assume you mean anatomically modern) skull in its collection.
"Stephen Gould conceded that evidence of transitional fossils is absent."
This is a well known quote mine.
"Not even Darwin believed his own theory, having renounced it on his deathbed."
And this is a well known urban legend. Darwin's daughter, who was present at her father's deathbed, debunked this one personally in 1922.
3/13/2008 9:17:49 PM
#433121
Papabear
Uh, no, no, no and hell no.
3/13/2008 9:18:53 PM
#433124
TheOutsider
Lying for Jebus!!!
3/13/2008 9:19:29 PM
#433130
Canadiest
absolutely no problem with lying and repeating proven lies.
3/13/2008 9:22:47 PM
#433134
toothache
What's the ninth commandment?
3/13/2008 9:25:33 PM
#433135
Nibien
I remember that Jesus chap, promoted lying left and right while saying we should stone everyone we don't like.
3/13/2008 9:25:37 PM
#433141
"Richard Leakey is a visiting professor of Human Evolution and Conservation at the State University of New York at Stony Brook."
So I doubt it.
Arthur Keith - no, I doubt it, considering his writings on evolution.
3/13/2008 9:33:13 PM
#433148
And if your mommy tells you a bedtime story, you go and believe it, eh?
3/13/2008 9:39:32 PM
#433149
David D.G.
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics." ~Benjamin Disraeli
The esteemed huldah153 herewith supplies a copious quantity of examples of the category of the second kind.
~David D.G.
3/13/2008 9:39:36 PM
#433152
Kinderklein
Originally Posted by Tomk80
Also, that Darwin renounced his theory on his deathbed is a lie, made up by a 'lady' named Hope, who wasn't even present when he died. The Darwin family have specifically renounced this story as being untrue. Search the "lady Hope-story" for more information on this
Originally Posted by huldah153
I would rather believe Lady Hope. Granted, it is entirely possible that she may have lied, but given that she was a staunch Christian, I don't think she would have for fear of facing an eternity of hellfire.
3/13/2008 9:45:18 PM
#433159
David B.
Well if you're going to quote-mine, misrepresent and flat out lie for your beliefs...
Wait, didn't Jesus say on his death-cross that God had forsaken him?
Sure there was a lot of made up stuff about him coming back from the dead, spread by friends and family. But I prefer to think he's in hell now, and that as a staunch Christian you and Lady Hope will be joining him.
3/13/2008 9:58:35 PM
#433162
tmr
Myths continue to thrive when people refuse to verify facts.
If you even did so much as a Google search you'd find evidence that contradicts everything you said.
Googling to find specific information more often than not also turns up opposing information.
Try it some time. You might learn something.
3/13/2008 10:02:10 PM
#433170
apYrs
citations bitch
3/13/2008 10:11:46 PM
#433175
LOLKILLZ
Even if that was true (which it ain't), it doesn't make the theory any less credible.
3/13/2008 10:15:04 PM
#433177
Blackvoice
In your dreams, maybe.
3/13/2008 10:16:07 PM
#433184
Septic Sceptic
This has been a FSTDT special on "Lies relating to the proponents of evolution."
Tune in next week when we'll be covering "Lies related to the morality of evolution". Featuring Hitler, the Columbine Shootings, and the alleged racism of Charles Darwin.
3/13/2008 10:22:40 PM
#433206
szena
The rest of the Gould quote:
There is an alternative, however. Perhaps the fossil record is not so hopeless, and the observation of no change within species and sudden replacement between them reflects evolution as it actually occurs. Recall Chapter 26: Large, successful, central populations are resistant to evolutionary change. Small, isolated, marginal populations may speciate. The process of speciation, though slow to a human observer (hundreds or thousands of years), is geologically fleeting. In most geological situations, and at most rates of sedimentation, a thousand years translates into a single bedding plane, not a thick sequence of rock. Thus, if speciation is the dominate mode of evolution, we should expect to see exactly what we do see: the unchanging species represents a successful central population; its sudden replacement by a descendent records the migration into the ancestral area of a descendant that arose rapidly in a small population at the edge of the ancestor's geographical range. Thus, it is possible that most evolution occurs in the mode of speciation and that phyletic evolution is relatively unimportant.
I don't have time to look for the others, but I'm quite sure they are similarly misrepresented.
3/13/2008 10:50:53 PM
#433246
Old Viking
We expect you to lie for Jesus. Jesus expects you to do it less obviously.
3/13/2008 11:12:32 PM
#433279
Grand Archblasphemer of York
What fossil evidence negates evolution? The thigh bone of the Jesus-saurus Rex? A three million year old human skull does not necessarily disprove evolution...if it were a few million years older than that, and identical to the structure of a modern human's skull, it is a possibility, but that is not what you have. Transitional fossils are not all too absent anymore, and Darwin never recanted....
Please...if you are going to try to challenge evolution, get your damn facts straight!
3/14/2008 12:14:03 AM
#433294
"Arthur Keith admitted that the theory is only kept going because it rejects fossil evidence that negates it. Richard Leakey stated outright that human evolution had been disproved by the discovery of a 3 million year old human skull from Africa."
3/14/2008 12:31:11 AM
#433377
antichrist
Lying is a sin, unless you are lying for Jesus, in which case it gets you brownie points.
3/14/2008 1:47:10 AM
#433388
anti-nonsense
Bullshit.
3/14/2008 1:59:23 AM
#433622
Truthuser
Miss Informed, would you please come to the reception please ! Miss Informed !
3/14/2008 6:25:14 AM
#433677
Katsuro
@Kinderklein:
"I would rather believe Lady Hope. Granted, it is entirely possible that she may have lied, but given that she was a staunch Christian, I don't think she would have for fear of facing an eternity of hellfire."
Yes why would a staunch Christian who would likely have thought evolution went against her beliefs and was heracy and a threat to her religion etc, lie in order to discredit it?
And you say she wouldn't be likely to lie as she'd fear facing an eternity of hellfire. Christians lie all the time, how long have you been on this site? Hovind? Ken Ham? Not to metion the numerous random fuckwits quoted on this site.
3/14/2008 10:06:40 AM
#433693
Quantum Mechanic
100% lies.
Fascinating.
3/14/2008 10:29:06 AM
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