Kent Hovind #fundie

Kent Hovind #fundie kent-hovind.com

"The Earth is billions of years old. The geologic column is the way to interpret it, and Charles Darwin's evolution is right." That is what they teach in order to be a good communist. Did you know that Russian teachers come to America to study education because the American educational system is considered the best in the world for teaching students these three principals. This prepares them to be good communists and to doubt the word of God.

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old comment by Septic Sceptic

So to recap:

* The gays and communists have the schools.

* The Jews got their claws into the media and banking.

* The atheist ACLU are attacking the legal system.

* The lesbian feminists are pummeling away at the traditional American family.

* The triple-headed Cerberus of abortionists, evolutionists and psychologists are corrupting the medical system from the inside with their lies about antibiotic-resistant bacteria, mental illness and women's rights.

* All the while the Muslims are creeping around in the long grass, waiting for a Christian child to be left unattended so they can spring from cover and drag the tot back to their Mosque of Exploding Doom to be indoctrinated.

I'm surprised you've got the strength to struggle out of your cell in the morning, being a member of such a persecuted minority group. I know i'd be tempted to stay in bed if I were in your shoes.

old comment by big baby jesus

hey everybody, there's a new batshit crazy peice of biblical fanfiction from hovind

Knee-Mail: Kent and Zimri and Cozbi
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From: Kent Hovind
Sent: November 21, 2007
To: Zimri and Cozbi
Subject: Adultery

(First read Numbers 25:3-18)

KH: (At Numbers 25:6) Whoa there, folks! What are you doing dressed like that?! Put some clothes on!

Zimri: We are going to walk slowly right past old pious Moses, the judges, and the whole congregation of Israel right into my tent to make love.

I’m tired of all those silly moral laws Moses tries to put on us (Exodus 20:14). He doesn’t want us to enjoy life. We will show those do-gooders what they are missing out on. They are a bunch of old foggies way out of touch with the times.

KH: But Cozbi, aren’t you embarrassed to be outside in broad daylight dressed like that? It looks like you were poured into those jeans and they forgot to say, “When!”

Cozbi: Oh, no! I like my clothes tight, low cut, and see through - to show off all my curves. I get a lot of attention from the men dressed like this.

KH: I’m sure you do, but my daddy always said, “If you’re not in business, don’t advertise!”

Cozbi: But I am in business!

KH: You two aren’t married, are you?

Cozbi: Of course we are! Just not to each other. My husband is off with another woman and Zimri’s wife is probably off “praying” for him. She doesn’t understand him like I do.

KH: But Zimri, didn’t you hear God give the Ten Commandments to Moses, including the one about not committing adultery?

Zimri: No, that was my dad almost forty years ago. I was not born yet. Dad tried to tell me about it, but I wasn’t interested in that church stuff. Plus, Dad was always too busy trying to get ahead in politics. He’s a prince, you know (Numbers 25:14). He never had much time to teach me about life; so I learned from my friends (Proverbs 7:7). I’ll be able to be a prince also one day. My dad has connections.

KH: I know. That means many others will look to you for leadership. I don’t think what you are doing today is setting a good example for the young boys around you to follow, is it?

Zimri: I’m more concerned about me right now. Besides, why would God care what I do as long as it doesn’t hurt anybody? Plus, it’s not like I’m the only one. There are twenty-four thousand of us that have Midianite girlfriends (Numbers 25:9; I Corinthians 10:8). Get with the times, Kent, everyone is doing it.

Cozbi: Yeah, Kent, it’s not like we are complete heathens. We came from Abraham, too, and we worship god (Genesis 25:2). We just call him Baal. Our god doesn’t have strict rules like Moses. Our god encourages adultery. On top of that, Zimri and I are both children of important political leaders. The rules for the common folk don’t apply to us.

KH: I think God will judge everyone by the same standard. He is not impressed with politics, power, or titles.

Cozbi: Well, we just do things differently in my country. If you feel it’s right for you, then it’s OK. I know men and how they think and react. I’m real good at putting that knowledge to work.

KH: Do you know or care how God thinks or reacts?

Cozbi: Not really.

KH: Zimri, you know this girl was raised in a pretty heathen world without knowledge of the true God. She has not seen God provide manna from Heaven like you have (Exodus 16:15-35; Deuteronomy 8:16; John 6:31-58). She didn’t see God do any miracles (Numbers 16:31; 17:8). She has not been able to read or hear the great laws God gave to your people. She needs to be converted, Zimri. Aren’t you concerned about her soul?

Zimri: Not really.

KH: What about the effect your actions will have on your wife and children?

Zimri: I don’t really care. It’s not important to me.

KH: What if it’s important to God?

Zimri & Cozbi: Look, we don’t care and we are kind of in a hurry right now. We want to see Moses’ reaction when we walk past.

KH: Oh, you will get a reaction, all right! Phinehas will help both of you get the point (Numbers 25:7).

old comment by Mrdie

@John: Lysenko wasn't immortal. He died around 1970 and by then he had been viewed as discredited and ignored.

Lysenko didn't deny evolution, but he was wrong in his more Lamarckian-esque views. You have to remember that he was a peasant, as were most in the Central Committee of the USSR. You should look up his 1948 speech.

" THE appearance of Darwin's teaching, expounded in his book, The Origin of Species, marked the beginning of scientific biology.

The primary idea in Darwin's theory is his teaching on natural and artificial selection. Selection of variations favourable to the organism has produced the purposefulness which we observe in living nature, in the structure of organisms and their adaptation to their conditions of life. Darwin's theory of selection provided a rational explanation of the purposefulness observable in living nature. His idea of selection is scientific and true. In substance, his teaching on selection is a summation of the age-old practical experience of plant and animal breeders who, long before Darwin, produced strains of plants and breeds of animals by the empirical method.

Darwin investigated the numerous facts obtained by naturalists in living nature and analysed them through the prism of practical experience. Agricultural practice served Darwin as the material basis for the elaboration of his theory of Evolution, which explained the natural causation of the adaptation we see in the structure of the organic world. That was a great advance in the knowledge of living nature.

In Engels' opinion, three great discoveries enabled man's knowledge of the inter-connection of natural processes to advance by leaps and bounds: first, the discovery of the cell; second, the discovery of the transformation of energy; third, "the proof which Darwin first developed in connected form that the stock of organic products of nature surrounding us today, including mankind, is the result of a long process of evolution from a few original unicellular germs, and that these again have arisen from protoplasm or albumen which came into existence by chemical means."

The classics of Marxism, while fully appreciating the significance of the Darwinian theory, pointed out the errors of which Darwin was guilty. Darwin's theory, though unquestionably materialist in its main features, is not free from some serious errors. A major fault, for example, is the fact that, along with the materialist principle, Darwin introduced into his theory of evolution reactionary Malthusian ideas. In our days this major fault is being aggravated by reactionary biologists.

Darwin himself recorded the fact that he accepted the Malthusian idea. In his Autobiography we read:

"In October 1838, that is, fifteen months after I had begun my systematic enquiry, I happened to read for amusement Malthus on Population, and being well prepared to appreciate the struggle for existence which everywhere goes on from long-continued observation of the habits of animals and plants, it at once struck me that under these circumstances favourable variations would tend to be preserved, and unfavourable ones to be destroyed. Here then I had last got a theory by which to work."

Many are still apt to slur over Darwin's error in transferring into his teaching Malthus's preposterous reactionary ideas on population. The true scientist cannot and must not overlook the erroneous aspects of Darwin's teaching.

Biologists should always ponder these words of Engels: "The entire Darwinian teaching on the struggle for existence merely transfers from society to the realm of living nature Hobbes's teaching on bellum omnium contra omnes and the bourgeois economic teaching on competition, along with Malthus's population theory. After this trick (the absolute justification for which I deny, particularly in regard to Malthus's theory) has been performed, the same theories are transferred back from organic nature to history and the claim is then made that it has been proved that they have the force of eternal laws of human society. The childishness of this procedure is obvious, and it is not worth while wasting words on it. But if I were to dwell on this at greater length, I should have started out by showing that they are poor economists first, and only then that they are poor naturalists and philosophers."

old comment by David B.

Darwinism is much closer to laissez-faire capitalism than communism, being strongly based on the ideas of differential success and healthy (for the population) competition.

Lysenko hated it because it denied the 'contribution of all parts of the organism to the development of the whole' or some such pseudo-Marxist bull. Instead, he argued, a plant or animal must pass on the adaptations it has made during its life to the next generation, 'like the great revolution has reshaped society for the better for this and all future generations', yada, yada.

Basically, Lysenko said Darwin was wrong because he was at odds with the ideology of the day, and that all evidence should be reinterpreted to fit with that ideology, which was 'obviously' true.

Being a good and smarmy little party member, Lysenko was able to convince the higher ups that his way was best and his opponents were enemies of the state that should be imprisoned, silenced, or made to teach the right theories (i.e. the ones that matched Soviet ideology).

Of course, reality refused to play ball, and the 20 years of pseudo-science and lies that followed caused the USSR to fall way behind the rest of the world in the fields of genetics, agriculture, and to some respects medicine.

How ironic then that Hovind wants to repeat Lysenko's 'success' in the US and ban, twist or discredit evolution and genetics to preserve the 'obvious truth' of his own ideology. Most likely with similar consequences.

You'd have make a good Stalinist, Kent, you've already got the requisite attitude regarding 'truth'.

old comment by K

More: The Earth is billions of years old, here's the evidence that led us to that conclusion.

The geologic column is part of the evidence for the Earth's age and history, and here are the places it occurs in a complete, unbroken record.

Charles Darwin advanced the idea of evolution, and here the supporting evidence. Also, here are things that Darwin got wrong, and the evidence for that.

Evolution is a 'principal'[sic] of communism. There's no evidence offered for this, just believe me because I bought a PhD.

Russian teachers study American education to promote an economic system they no longer practice... No evidence for that, either.

There have been Christain communes, but we'll ignore that and say communism = atheism, without evidence, again.

old comment by Swede

Yes, yes and yes. Though, if Mr. Darwin came back now, he'd barely recognize "his" evolution, as it has evolved quite a bit in 137 years.

Nope, a good communist thinks that the means of production should be owned by the hands that produce the goods.
It's Economy, and has little or nothing to do with Biology.

Did you know that Russia is not communist, Kenty-poo. Communist Soviet doesn't exist anymore.

The American educational system is definitely not considered the best in the world now, and with the "help" of the DeVos hag, it will get even worse.

Principal? Isn't that the Head of School? How do you teach students the managers? It doesn't make grammatical sense...
I think you mean principles, little jailbird.

Reading the Bible makes you doubt the word of God. Many now-atheists (Matt Dillahunty for example) turned agnostic from studying the Bible texts "too" minutely.

I have at least one Facebook friend that is both a communist and a Christian. He has probably spent the night managing a gathering hall where homeless people and other unfortunates can come in and get warm, have a cup of coffee or a bowl of soup, and perhaps sleep for a while. The embodiment of WWJD...

Kent Hovind #fundie kent-hovind.com

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