I hope it gets bad enough to turn people to God, so that more will go with us when the Rapture happens. I hope that includes my oldest son, who isn't saved yet.
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So you hope the world situation gets worse than it is already? Nice. As if there isn't enough warfare, poverty, disease and natural disasters now, you hope more people die, get wounded, are forced to live in horrible conditions and suffer horrifying pain.
Yep, who cares how many suffer and die, as long as YOUR son turns his life around.
Although it's nice to know the odd one escapes.
I hope that it gets bad enough so that morons you like will eventually come to realization that your God is complete and utter prick (assuming he even exists). Of course, I am being as naive as you are in this case...tragedy is as likely of driving people to God who aren't already there as it is to drive people with your stubborn mindset into reconsidering their beliefs...possible, but far from a simple task.
Rapture idiot : Hey everyone ! Things are going down the tube.
Sane person : Well, let's do something about it!
Rapture idiot : Nah, I'd rather bury my head in sand and hope some invisible sky magician helps me out.
Sane Person : Well good luck with that...sheesh.
Rapture Idiot : Oh, magical dude in the sky, watch over me and kills all those who doubt your existence.
Invisible Sky Magician : Not now, I'm masturbating.
A bothersome analogy I had to grow up with:
The sheepherder who left the flock to find the one out of compassion... an example of love and kindness somehow. (as the wolves rip into the flock)
So their god is willing to risk his "entire kingdom" to save one, huh?
Something doesn't add up.
So you would like people to undergo the equivalent of mental and emotional torture just to get them to convert? What does that say about your particular brand of christianity if you have to take advantage of a fragile mental/emotional state to get converts?
Yeah, or I could make lots of money and move to Europe, the mystical land of high gas prices, valuable money, and solar panels.
It just occurred to me after hearing the words 'we're covered' that a lot of fundies (not all, but a lot) use religion and God as insurance. It's about the most selfish and un-Christlike reason to believe in a higher, divine power. As an atheist, I think that's repulsive.
Am I the only one who thinks tygerkittn confuses his/her god with an insurance company?
Edit: ah, overlooked Jacob's comment.
I think these lyrics apply very much so here
High as fuck by John Lajoie
Have you ever watched the sun go down?
So, you are one of 144,000 Jewish male virgins?
No?
Better get to that stockpiling!
"God will watch over us no matter how bad it gets."
You just watch this, if thing do go all to Hell, Kitten and their family will be no better than anybody else. In fact, they could be worse, given the fundie's insisting on ignoring common sense. And when it is pointed out that they are floundering just as much as anybody else, they'll say "Yes, Satan's minions are trying to tear us away from God".
According to your bible, G*d hates people who are self-righteous, which describes you. Guess when the imaginary 'we all floatie away' happens, you won't be going.
It's so much easier to believe that you will be plucked out of here before anything becomes intolerable than to actually do something about the state of the world, isn't it?
The modern parable of the sheep and the goats would have to add a third category, the ones who say, "Why should I do anything? God is going to take care of it."
If you want all of us to join you in the Rapture, then just convince us with your superior facts and logic that your religion is true. Go on. I'm listening. I'm sure you can do it.
Truthuser: We have essentially the same saying in the U.S. Would that more people paid attention to it.
Hate to break it to you, Poptart, but according to your big black book only 144,000 are getting "Raptured." I seriously doubt you're one of them, what with the wishing ill on the world for selfish reasons.
Tyger, isn't it a matter for your Lord to say is someone is saved? Surely you can't make that judgement? To judge someone - andsaying the are or are not saved is a judgement - is a sin. Therefore if you are sinning like this, you cannot be saved. Only the righteous are saved. And only the Lord decides who is righteous in his eyes. So come down off the high horse and start living a proper life, tending for the family, the neighbours and the planet and let God worry about end things.
Sorry tygerkittn... I have doubts as to you being Jewish, your name makes me doubt your Male, and since you have a son, you're certainly not a virgin.
Since the only people God will take are Virgin Male Jews, you're right out of luck there.
Saul started that Messianic prophecy. Since I consider it my duty to let the world know that Saul was a straight-up liar, you need to know that everything written by him (i.e the majority of the NT) is bullshit. Luke's is suspect by association.
Christ, on the other hand, promised His followers that He would *always* be with them.
If these bible queers were really Christian, they wouldn't be carrying on like He's going to show up any time now and "take them home". Instead, they would recognize His living presence and revel in the joys of being a human being on a pretty neat planet.
That's odd, because my completely made up event that isn't even in the text I hold as the beginning and end of sacred doctrine says I say I'm going to Heaven and everyone on Rapture Ready is getting left behind.
But I'm cool with it either way.
ADD: Once again, Caustic Gnostic nails it. I'm just appendix snark to these forums.
I thought, not being an expert on this, that there was a strict numbers limit on this "ship of fools" of not very many ? Can anyone enlighten me on this strict Godly door policy.
Delenda est Fundementalimus
"You're in good hands with God..."
...as you go through life sitting on your ass, whining about your problems and obsessively praying for death.
This is the kind of shit I can't understand. How the hell can anyone be so callous towards their own children. Going so far as trying to change them but if they don't, accepting that their religion says that their child will be tormented in a burning pit of fire for all ETERNITY, with no chance at redemption.
How the hell can any parent say - "Yep I'm covered". How the hell can any parent think that heaven will be paradise knowing your child is in eternal fire.
That sounds a lot like Pride, which, as you certainly know, is a deadly sin that will keep you out of heaven. Too bad...
The word "saved" implies that it's a done deal, you are over the hump. Can't you fall out of God's good grace as well, if for example you get filled up with pride, envy or greed?
Tygerkitten, did you ever consider the possibility that what is keeping your son from being saved is the fact that his mother is praying for the world he will inherit to get worse in preparation for what seems to him to be a highly unlikely miraculous event? Perhaps it is your self-centered, small minded attitude that is turning him off to the whole idea of being saved.
Naw, its gotta be Satan, right?
"As for us, we're covered, God will watch over us no matter how bad it gets."
You just know this subhuman fundie cuntbrain is deluded to continue to say this...
...even when their medical insurance has run out, and can't scrape together enough for the next morgage payment, as they received their last paycheque recently
All the while, your God watches over your pastor, living the life of Riley, as he continues to fleece his sheeple - tax free - who pay for his eleventeenth palatial home and Mercedes-Benz.
To paraphrase the Ferengi Rule of Acquisition:
Faith and the sack is worth the sack.
That sack'll ensure you're covered, as you huddle in that alleyway, seeing all the people pass by in their fancy clothes & cars, as they hurry to their jobs that keep them - unlike you - covered physically from the cold; also the medical insurance covering them, as you feel the slight but coming onset of what could be appendicitis...
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